Xojo license and Xojo Cloud

I am thinking about trying to create a web app. If I sign up for monthly Xojo cloud service, do I have to also pay the $300 license fee to be able to run it on Xojo Cloud server?
Or can I try to write a simple app and run it on Xojo Cloud server to see what’s involved without paying $300 for a full year for a web license that I may decide it’s not for me. I assume I can cancel the $49 / month cloud service at any time if it doesn’t work out.

You buy first the $300 license to do development.

When you plan to deploy, you can order the $49/month package. and of course cancel as needed.

Thank you for the quick reply.

Well that won’t work for me. I’m not paying $350 just to try and learn how to write a web app that no one will use except me to test it.

with just the download of xojo i think you can test your web app in debug mode from ide.
a browser will open and you can also access it via ip and port from other device.
the build icon is disabled until you buy a license.
as i understood the license for a year includes updates and after the year is over you can still use it to make apps.
xojo cloud is a service but you can also rent a windows/linux vps at your own.

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Wait, you only have to pay the monthly cloud service fee if you actually want them to host your web app. You can certainly run the web app on your own machine, in a browser, while trying out Xojo. In fact, you don’t even need a license to do that.

Edit: beaten by Markus

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Oh, I missed that. You can test without a license. Just build and run in debugger on your computer.

It might all work fine locally, but I will never know if it actually works unless I am actually running it and accessing data on the server - correct? Which is why I was going to pay for the cloud service. But from what you’re saying, I can not use the could service unless I also pay the $300.

i remember there was a 90 day money back guarantee at shop.
my self used this 20% coupon here, i think its still valid.

btw, the difference to normal web sites is if your network disconnect/connect the web app restart.

@Markus Rauch. Thank you. “the difference to normal web sites is if your network disconnect/connect the web app restart.”

I’m not sure what that means. I know nothing about web apps.

So, you want in advance a full licence to be able to build a fully functional app. And not just that, a free hosting service?

Good luck with that, I dont think any commercial company works that way, maybe if you try with some open source framework.


@Ivan Tellez

I am not sure what you are talking about.
I stated very clearly that I plan to subscribe to Xojo cloud hosting service.

Edit: @Ivan Tellez The more I think about this, the more aggravated I get.
All I did was ask a simple question…
I asked - If I pay for the Xojo cloud hosting, do I need to pay $300 in order to try a simply web app to see if I could get it to work.
That’s it - that’s all I wanted to know.
Some very nice people responded letting me know I had 90 days to try it.
But then you came along, not bothering to read what I actually asked, before leaving your nasty remarks.

Ivan isn’t what I would call diplomatic. There are built versions of a webapp for deployment testing. I’m not sure if you can test the Xojo cloud. But you can always ask the Xojo people.

I just was direct. You only can host an app if it is compiled. You need a licence to compile an app. I do read what you actually asked, it is just that your “simple” question was answered in the first reply. The short answers is YES, but is not easy to explain why and is also hard for you to understad the answers if you dont know the basics of how a xojo web app works. You dont really “need” the Cloud service.

It will be easier if you read the references to have a better idea on what xojo can do, how it does and what you need.


Hi @Jace Nicklien

Welcome in first place!!

I think it would be better if you contact Xojo about this at hello@xojo.com. Maybe there is some kind of solution they can give so you can “taste” Xojo Cloud before buying for a simple “test” project, so you can get a better idea about how it behaves.

Anyway, you can see how it behaves here (I think this Xojo Demo on Xojo Cloud is more than a really “simple” or barebones project).

[off topic]
They should really do something about the Google maps issue. :wink:

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Ivan maybe didn’t use “diplomatic chit chat” but he gave the best and complete answer to prevent unnecessary expences and still get full insight in how you can get an idea how Xojo WE works.

[quote=471494:@Paul Sondervan][off topic]
They should really do something about the Google maps issue. :wink:

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google map is a paid service now + very complicated to setup.

Do you know which database was used in the XOJO WEB Demo please ?

If you mean the Eddie’s Electronics web demo (https://demos.xojo.com), then it uses a SQLite database. The source code is included with Xojo:

Examples/Sample Applications/EddiesElectronics/Web

google map is a paid service now + very complicated to setup.

Not necessarily.
You can still use the embed link of google maps in combination with iframe.
For example, the old Apple Campus at Infinite Loop

<iframe src="https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=!1m18!1m12!1m3!1d3172.4564967931874!2d-122.0325085842021!3d37.3316999798425!2m3!1f0!2f0!3f0!3m2!1i1024!2i768!4f13.1!3m3!1m2!1s0x808fb5b6e94ffe23%3A0x63bb79532baa6af4!2sApple%20Campus!5e0!3m2!1snl!2snl!4v1596114891019!5m2!1snl!2snl" width="600" height="450" frameborder="0" style="border:0;" allowfullscreen="" aria-hidden="false" tabindex="0"></iframe>

Will look like this:

:+1: :grinning:

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