New Xojo 2025r1 Windows Loading SplashScreen | Design

Uff… I’m wondering if I’m the only one who doesn’t like this new Loading SplashScreen of Xojo 2025r1 on Windows…?

I’m not a designer at all… but to me this looks like one should not be designing it.

  • Progress Text Label above ProgressBar
    • even worse since the ProgressBar has some weird “dots-animation”
    • so 3 things are above each other and “striking through the Text”: The green filling bar, the dots, the Progress-Text Label
  • Shadows
    • 2 Labels have shadows, 1 Label doesn’t, App Icon also doesn’t have a shadow
    • shouldn’t it be “all shadowy” - or no shadow at all (which I’d prefer)?

And since loading Xojo might take a while, I often click outside of the SplashScreen (or work with some other application meanwhile)…
…then (in the “not frontmost window state”) it looks really, really bad (in my eyes) - transparency gone.


If you have more design experience, feel free to add constructive input for Xojo to make them a better looking first impression (well, Splash Screen)…:
Xojo Issue #78961: Windows - New Xojo Loading SplashScreen | Design

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IMHO, they certainly need to remove the green dots. I agree, if the Xojo logo is going to have a shadow the logo should too. I wouldn’t with the loading plugins and version number. Shadows on smaller text doesn’t work well.

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I prefer it to the old splash screen & it does show some progress to WinUI.

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I also like the “fresher look”.

And that’s something I appreciate, too.


I haven’t said I’d prefer to have it back to old - not at all.
…I just hope they will show how a good looking Window can be done (with WinUI) :wink:

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I like the new design. They’re obviously trying to use things that are possible with the new framework features.

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I was pleasantly surprised the first time I saw it.

Yes, it has some design issues. But I choose to believe that it was put in place as a tech demo for the new WinUI updates, and will be aesthetically improved in time.

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I’m bothered by the fact that the IDE now has two loading windows: a Windows version and an everything else version. 5 different project types with no practical way to share code, and now even within a single project we have user interfaces that cannot be shared at all. Xojo: cross platform that isn’t!

I believe they said the normal controls would eventually be replaced by XAML controls, so this issue would go away, so I can’t say this is the worst thing in the world. But we don’t know for sure that’ll happen.

I for one am not touching the XAML stuff because I’m a cross platform developer. It’s bad enough I have to use NSPopoverMBS and HTMLViewer on Mac, and a modal dialog and WebView2MBS on Windows. I’m not going down the path of splitting up my interfaces further.

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You’re probably aware that it also has two toolbars now, one for macOS and one for everything else.

Honestly, I can’t remember. I can understand why, but frankly, the toolbar kind of sucks on all platforms these days.

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could have more symmetry, more consistent. the design it not really beautiful.

btw the new toolbar icons in the ide looks very ugly.

:grinning_face: :grin: :joy: :rofl: This is a pretty typical reaction among developers. I don’t think it really has anything to do with the design itself — it’s more about the fact that most developers just don’t like changes they can’t toggle on or off when they feel ready. LOL.
Even if the logo had been designed by Prada, Sergio Pininfarina, M.C. Escher, or Paul Rand (okay okay, I know — not all of them are still with us), chances are we’d still grumble about it.
Let’s just embrace our natural love for consistency — call it a “developer quirk” — and accept that sometimes things do look different. (I get the same feeling when I see photos of myself from a few years ago.)
And hey, it’s just a splash screen. I’d only start complaining if I had to see it four times a day because Xojo kept crashing (which it doesn’t).
So… well done, Xojo

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I mean… it’s not a great layout. There’s more spacing between the letters than there is horizontal padding from the edge of the window. It’s nice to see that they’re trying to use new technologies, but it’s apparent that no one there has design sense.

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There are way worse out there.
Please don’t take this the wrong way anyone, but comparatively speaking it is not that bad.

Have any of you used any of the virtual tabletop UIs?
Fantasy Grounds, Foundry, Roll20?
Now those guys really struggle with UI.

And don’t get me started on horrific UI that is Logos Bible software. It is like they take all the UI best practices and do the opposite.

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i wish the SplashScreen would show a list why we wait “seconds” for each single entry …

It used to. Xojo got flack about blaming the plugin developers for the slow load times. Xojo can’t make everyone happy all the time.

I can’t believe that y’all are wasting your time discussing a freaking splash screen. :disappointed_face:

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I’m ok with something like this

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OT
i not use third party plugin, the dll’s comes with the IDE are few Kilo Bytes.
that can not be the load times from SSD. more a initialization procedure.
the ide start took 18 seconds at my pc …

Yes, that’s what I said. Get rid of the dots. Only shadows on the larger parts but applied consistently.

The only thing I would suggest is a smaller gap between the XOJO lettering, it looks wider than the logo to X space.

I guess that that large spacing sadly is part of the registered design, so, it couldn’t be changed. You can see it applied everywhere in the Xojo contents, as in their blog or in the main website.

Then perhaps a slightly wider window. I’m not suggesting removing all the space just some.