[quote=241878:@Dale Arends]Not really, Karen. I, too, did programming on punch cards, 6502 assembly, 6502 machine code in hex and, before that, yes, toggle switches. Doesn’t mean that I am (or was) a real programmer. Just means that I’m older than dirt! 
Dale[/quote]
Same here. “Enjoyed” 68000er on Commodore C64 without any kind of Dev. Environment. 
Today i do not care about beeing a Coder or Programmer. My Boss say’s “It’s working far better then anything we had before”. Makes me feel like a Pro. Anything else is not of interest for me. 
BTW: Thank you Xojo Team. Xojo is enabling creatives like me to reach goals Borland never made me even dream about! 