And now... Windows 10 is being sunsetted to favor Win 11

Sounds like recent Mac OSes…

-Karen

Like what???

#5 Is the new Alt+Tab behavior (actually a carryover from 7/Vista, but I’m blaming 10 for keeping it.)

Used to be that Alt+Tab would shift focus back and forth between the two most recent focus-having windows, and holding Alt while pressing Tab allowed you to cycle through all windows in order of last-had-focus.

They changed it to something else (IDK what) and now even after 10+ years of daily use I still can’t reliably predict what window will be shown if I Alt-Tab with more than two windows open.

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#6 The unoptimized mess that is 10’s desktop environment.

I’ve got a quad-core CPU circa 2021, 32GB of RAM, and everything is on solid state disks. Yet there are noticeable delays throughout the desktop environment and system-provided apps. Games, browsers, VMs, even Xojo are all flying along just fine. But loading a control panel screen is a chore? What’s it doing, mining bitcoin?

Oh boy, I can’t recall, but I remember that printing was a real pain, broken, repaired, broken …

Regarding the TPM system, it has been hacked real fast. The chip is connected to the CPU with SPI protocol. All the hackers have done is spying the communications and they found out how to go around the protection. Windows 11 is not the secure platform Microsoft is so proud about.

A new format type has been introduced, and converting the old format to the new one is a long process that sometimes fail. The conversion rate to Windown 11 is not that high.

Whatever.

Is it always necessary to be unpleasant, instead of conversing positively ? Alright, I did not understand your point. Perhaps explaining would have been a better course of action on your part.

This is a forum. Not a fight.

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#7 The login screen. I have to click or press enter or something before it shows a login prompt. Otherwise it just shows a pretty background with a clock. I just want to log in; I can look at the clock then. There isn’t even any security excuse like with the old “Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to log in” message–which at least told you what you needed to do.

The first time I booted Windows 10 I had to google–on my phone–how to summon the login prompt.

Because Microsoft wasn’t Apple-ishing enough, but they accelerated as f… err… accelerated fast, since 2022/Q4. Win7 is no more, Win8 is no more, Win 8.1 is no more. Win 10 ended sales, kind of is no more, but will join win 7 in less than 3 years.

I don’t remember if the system guided me, ONCE. But here I go from locked to on just lightly touching the power/fingerprint reader, and yes, it unlocks it just for me.

Oh, I see. If I click somewhere or press any key it informs me what to do.

The only “problem” was a change to enhace security, remote drivers cant be installed automatically when instaling a printer installed in a remote pc. It is as simple as disable the feature or install the drivers locally first.

TPM system is a HARDWARE system, not a part of windows.

What is a format type ? Convert what from what? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Right on Michel. It’s something that most devs here do not understand. They are loosing sales, and they do not know it.

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A pretty good indication is when buyers got the very latest beta, and require support.

I can understand developers keep their good old system for production, but they should at least have an external drive or a virtual machine with the new system, for the necessary tests.

Personally, I have been under Windows 11 since day one (actually, beta), and that system was already very stable.

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And all that is on top of my basic complaints about Windows, such as the drive letter (so 1970s) and one’s inability to move or rename a file that happens to be open (there’s no excuse for this).

Win7 was not too bad, once one turned off all the flashy bling things that happened as you moused-over anything. But you are right about the UI. The other day I was away from home somewhere I do a bit of volunteering. The actual task of the moment was to update a spreadsheet with some numbers from a website. Easiest is to have the browser window and the SS window occupying about half the screen each. But anything less than full-screen for an SS window destroys the ribbon, meaning that doing stuff like inserting/removing rows, formatting cells, checking formulae in a cell, became next to impossible. And, it was very difficult to even move the SS window, as they have filled the title bar with stuff, and no longer have buttons with outlines, so finding somewhere where you can click/drag in the title is just a guessing game.

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The same occurs with Mac.

No it doesn’t. Moving open files is something I do all the time. Apps get told that a file has a new path and they adapt. Even Office for Mac can handle it, so Microsoft has no real excuse.

OK. Perhaps the apps are locking the file, which indeed prevents copy and move.

Which app are you talking about that opened the file ?

It felt more likely that the OS was enforcing the limitation.

It’s a backwards compatibility concession. Apps that know about non-locking file access can open files with or without locking. Apps that don’t know about it get the old behavior so they don’t break.

Interesting. I’ll have to try it next time I’m sat in front of a Windows machine (it runs 11).

lol, the particular behavior is an app thing, not the OS. Windows has APIs to monitor and locking files, etc. It is up to the app to use them.

MANY apps dont lock the files and are aware of changes:

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