I’m currently happy with a Xojo web app I’m running as a SAAS, it serves me well.
Not trying to validate my decision to stick with Xojo but just wondering who is in the same boat I am, and of course curios about who is still mantaining Web apps that were previously built with Xojo.
I have to say that Xojo Web and of course Lifeboat (with which I could not live without) for managing deployments are a nice pair for my needs. Anyone else agrees, anyone else wants to share what I asked in the topic?
I do the same.
Everything in Xojo and under the SAAS model.
One small difference: I don’t only use Web 2.0; I’ve also developed mobile applications in Xojo.
The company handles maintenance and development.
I do both. All my web apps are web 2.
Thanks to both of you for posting. Hoping some others will do the same.
Web apps and lifeboat here too.
Thanks for your reply. Can you share what your experience developing mobile apps with Xojo has been? Yes, I’m running my own thread off topic.
I have written and maintain 3 web 2.0 apps. Deployed on AWS using a CI/CD pipeline from GitHub.
I have a 13 year old webapp using Web 1.0 (Xojo 2019 r3.2) that I constantly update with new features, and only now am starting to explore with Web 2.0 (Xojo 2026 r2.1) for new webapps. I do not envision upgrading that legacy app to web 2.0 (too much hassle).
I am not aware of Lifeboat. Please explain.
It certainly seems great. However, I have no access to Linux server. All my deployments are with macOS Mac Mini. It is working great so far.
Yes I hear great things about it but I have been using RHEL (Red Hat) for so long I just deploy my own so have not used it.
Lifeboat is an app for deploying web apps. Very very handy.
It does more than just deploying apps, it installs updates to the server, installs databases, creates subdomains, etc etc. My most used app behind Xojo.
Not me. Never had a use.
Hello @Hector_Marroquin,
We have one main (but several) Web 2.0 SAAS (B-to-B and B-to-C) apps live and in active development.
We also use GraffitiSuite within those projects, which we highly recommend.
We have experience across a number of development environments/stacks (both low and full code), but over the years it has been very efficient to produce working prototypes, MVPs and many regular releases using Xojo Web, due in part to our familiarity with it.
AI (of course) is now changing the pace of delivery of ideation, prototyping and MVP - but also refactoring, and even porting of apps.
I don’t believe you need to justify your use of Xojo, if you can think efficiently in the environment.
There are thousands of tools parading for your attention right now, each with their own learning curves and inevitable problems, just like the products you already know.
In important ways, AI silences several arguments about real or perceived technical debt and its cost.
I’ve always maintained real technical debt resides more in the documentation of business rules and design of data structures than it does in your choice of development tool.
If you document well and your data structures are well considered (and even easier if they are exposed via API endpoints rather than SQL queries) with AI you are more “portable” at lower cost than at any time in the history of computing.
Kind regards, Andrew
Hey Hector!
2 Web apps, one of them still unmigrated to web 2.0
Hey @RomanV ! I knew you do. Glad to know you are still around here.
Hi Hector and everybody else.
Yes I run 5 apps using Xojo Cloud and using Web1.0, all using SQL and are all in daily use with approx 20 users.
I am attempting to get all moved to Web2.0 - but at my expense and time, so is taking some time!
I dont use unix, I have found xojo cloud to be really good, and the support I get from Xojo itself is excellent. although im told its more expensive than running your own servers- but I dont have time or the inclination to maintain my hosting.
Thank you for your answer!
That goes for the others that have responded too.
Right now I am at 240+ users and I’m stil happy with Xojo performance, no it is not breaking any speed records by far, but it is usable. I’m running a nice server with what I think are good specs, Lifeboat makes it extremely (really almost no work on my part) easy to have 4 instances of my Webappp running and I’m still seeng and being reported on that the app is still responding acceptably well. Planning on getting up to 600+ users, of course the app mostly sits still and there are just some spikes of users reading, writing and updating data. UIX has been acceptably good for users according to our (my partners and me making the survey) surveys.
I’ve created 3 Xojo 2.0 web apps. All of these are currently used internally on a iMac. We can access on a browser or iPhone from outside the office. One of these apps is used for internal notifications among our staff and one is a controller that determines who can access the web apps we create. This is all done in anticipation of developing additional web apps for use by our customers.
One of the 3 Web 2.0 apps is a database manager for our projects. It creates a database that is distributed with our apps (desktop and web apps) that handles changes to our table structure. It was previously a desktop app but recently converted to a web app as a proof of concept.
We also have some Web 1.0 apps that have been in use for a few years that handles some filings with the IRS. Someday we may convert these to 2.0 but as they say, if it isn’t broke, don’t fix it.