[quote=21666:@Joseph E]I think it would totally validate the product. What better way to answer the question whether a product is up to the task then actually writing one that would fill a critical role within the company? I know it would take time and resources but the payoff would be worth it - it would be your best sales tool.
There are (probably) numerous people who review WE and wonder if it is up to the task - can it handle the traffic, can it scale, can it stand the test of a real world environment.
This forum, had it been written in WE would answer those questions. It truly is a perfect candidate.
100% with you on that. There needs to be real live WE applications under real world loads for us to judge how it works so we can determine if it’s worth spending a lot of money on or not. Considering we cannot even build a stand alone test demo version of a WE application to test on our servers we have nothing to go on. Xojo inc. doesn’t even provide comparison tests.
[quote=21720:@Phillip Zedalis @ 1701 Software, Inc.]
In terms of scalability it would be similar to any other 32-bit only, single core using, proprietary not-yet-to-be-exploited in house web server lacking years of testing. Meaning with a nice load balancer and a number of smaller instances your number of users is essentially infinite. [/quote]
Phillip what is the most concurrent user count you’ve properly sustained using WE and your load balancing technique?
How many servers did it need?
Since you are offer this information how about sharing with us a tutorial? Teach us and maybe teach Xojo inc. developers how to do it?
Because Xojo inc. offers no information how to scale their own product they must not know how to properly do it.
Without tutorials showing developers how to achieve this, it’s not very helpful.
Thank you for helping Phillip.
How can we determine how much more hardware is needed using WE to accomplish the same thing?
Extraordinary hardware requirements and costs could be a deciding point for many people. If you can do something using 1 server with php or other tools, but WE requires 5 servers to do the same thing, well that’s ‘not good’.
It would be much more costly to do that than the arrangement Geoff worked out. [/quote]
Brad why would you say that?
They already own the product so there is no licensing fee.
They’re already experts in development with Xojo so there is no learning curve down time.
A supposed main point of developing with WE is to save developer time. Didn’t the old website claim something like 30 to 50 times faster web development using WE than other web tools? The new website is saying 10 times faster. If that is anywhere near true then a single developer should be able to create a forum fairly quickly. If Xojo inc. employees didn’t want to do it I’m sure there are a handful of WE customers that would of taken the job. Some probably would of accepted payment in the form of Xojo licenses costing Xojo inc. NOTHING. And if WE were up to the task that would obviously bring in more revenue if the forum were made with WE and worked well.
For a $700.00 product I would expect comparison tests, real live applications in the wild with a realistic user load so we know if this thing is worth buying for our projects or not.
Instead we are underwhelmed with lack of information and we don’t even have the ability to build our WE demo projects to properly test them on our servers.