Strange Windows 10 behavior

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Nearly everything in Windows is strange to me, but this is really annoying.

I made changes to a project that resides in a Shared Directory/Folder. Then I save the changes.

Once back in the Windows 10 window, I open that project (I closed it before making changes on MacOS) and notices the absence of the changes. I closed the project, and in the explorer I asked for the project modification date: it was hours ago.
Back to the Shared folder on the MacOS side, I checked the Info and see the date… is a minute (or two) ago.

That explains a lot: I wasted hourless to make changes to that project (that worked fine on MacOS, but crashed on Windows or do not behave as expected…

And I do not talked about “how do I set a custom Icon” to a service file on WIndows…
I was able to do that to folders (many clicks away; compare that to how you can do that in MacOS…), but the procedure is unknow to me.

I do not even checked with Google… because the last time I searched something, I fall into so many traps (plainly wrong and/or outdated information).
As an example, search for “How long a file name can be on MacOS”; you can replace MacOS with Ventura.
256 or 512 are bad answers…
Windows answers are bad answers too.

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If you drop a temp file next to your project in Shared Directory/Folder on the Mac does it appear in Windows?

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I will check once at home (that laptop have a broken monitor).

In the old Windows XP, it was possible to ask for an update (refresh) of the folder display, but I do not saw that in Windows 10 (is it still here ?)

But, if I am really right, this explain why I had multiple troubles using 2015r1 on Windows 10.
Else: I need a serious nap, sleeping a whole week (think that I am retired and do nearly nothing in the whole days, weeks, months…)

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Yes right click Refresh

Mmmm nap gooood

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Care to explain where it is ?

yes, nap are good unles it is too long; in that case, the night will be long, too long…

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In the Explorer window, there’s a button at the right-hand-end of the address bar. Or, according to the tooltip, press F5.

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Thanks, I will look carefully.

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In Explorer right click on the empty space (not on an item), it should be the 4th entry down or you can click this icon at the end of the path.

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What’s your workflow? Are you:

  • running the IDE on MacOS, editing & testing your code on macOS
  • running another copy of the IDE on Windows, editing and testing your code on Windows
  • using a Shared Folder (is this SMB sharing under Windows? Or are you using a VM tool such as Parallels or Fusion on the mac?) which holds your code for both IDEs?

Here’s how I do it:

  • use a mac
  • using Parallels or VMWare Fusion to create one (or more Windows VMs)
  • run the IDE on macOS only
  • to test on Windows VMs, use the Remote Debug feature: Remote debugging — Xojo documentation
  • If my app needs a lot of support files, then I do use a Shared Folder (using Parallels or Fusion shared folder feature) to hold the files
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I suspect I do as Emile does here.
My Mac has a folder of code and resources (which is on my desktop)
I run Windows 11 in a Parallels VM , and share the Documents, Downloads, and Desktop area.
because I have been bitten hard by it, I do NOT have iCloud synching my documents.

Inside the VM, I can launch Xojo 2015 (Still using it… nothing afterwards does graphics properly…) and open the project from the Mac Desktop, from where it opens and runs fine.
I personally haven’t seen any evidence of lost changes yet, but I maintain a strict filenaming process… each step of the way I change the project file name to todays date.
So if I make some changes, I know that I am opening the thing I saved, with no chance of opening ‘the same old filename’ yet getting an old version.

I do know that Apple’s filing system can take some time to reflect what was saved, moved or deleted these days.
Maybe off-topic, but many times i have run into code issues where I save a file in one method, then try to open it in another, and find it is not ‘there’, unless I wait for (say) 0.5 seconds to access it.

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Thank you Julian. I searched the menus, do not found and forget it.

And yes, before the refresh, this is an old copy that is loaded !!! :hot_face:

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I installed VirtualBox in a i5 MacBookPro.
Installed Xojo 2015r1 exe,
Moved the project on VirtualBox, using a VirtualBox Shared folder,
Then, made the project works on Windows 10 (it “worked” on MacOS, but will be running on a PC Laptop @ the Charity area).

I use the i5 Xojo 2015r1 mostly for its Language Reference.

I even create another project to report in 3 different windows the .sqlite file contents (Service TABLEs, sqlite_master contents and the client data TABLE contents.
In the Service TABLEs window, I can delete a TABLE and replace it with a fresh one (this allows me to remove duplicates rows / change the TABLE definition in case of error… and these comes so easylly !)

The generated .exe is copied in a MemoryStick, then copied on the target Windows 10 laptop. No unknow developer window is displayed.

BTW: how do I move a .txt file at compile time under Windows ? The MacOS used method do not works there. And this is used to fill a PopupMenu that is mandatory to add / modify a Record.

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I think so too Jeff.

What I do not talk about was the thirs screen where the TV is laying on :innocent:.

I must comfess… when I started to made the changes (logo / names), I was thinking it is a simple matter of some hours… and that software was not done to automatically change the Logos / Images / Company names (I’ve made one like that later and it was nice ! Just a matter of Preferences → select the company in a folder and the correct stuff appears o screen !).