iPhone programmer Steven Troughton-Smith discussed Xojo in the “Debug” Podcast #65 on May 15, 2015. The podcast is available on iTunes. There is more than one podcast named “Debug”, so this is the one with Guy English and Rene Ritchie. I can’t figure out how to link to it; this is iTunes after all…
Thank you for this pointer.
All the podcasts have Guy English and Rene Ritchie 
However, this link shows all podcasts with #65 outlined :
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/65-steven-troughton-smith/id578812394?i=342254729&mt=2
Mostly about RealBasic. Nice to hear.
There was also an interesting remark from the interviewer about Objective-C making it tough on people who had used C and C++ before. Now I understand my allergy to Objective-C