Sonoma just broke my app

[Sam_Rowlands]

@Detlef_Kahner

Means: On your website, write how to run the application on modern macOS versions as long as your application is not codesigned and notarized (“Right-click on the app”, select “open”, “enter your computer administrator name and passwort to start this application”)

There are many websites that write these hints to run their application.

As someone who makes a living selling Mac apps, I’d strongly recommend against doing this, for multiple reasons.

1. You are avoiding Apple’s Malware check, as such, you send a negative message to experienced customers, who will then avoid your application, no matter how good it is.
   Losing customers early on in the process is a recipe for disaster, one of the best techniques we have to making sales is a FREE trial, but if customers are not even downloading your app to start with, they’re not even going to use the FREE trial.
2. You are encouraging your customers to defeat their security, this is dangerous for your customer as it invites them to download other apps which have not been checked for malware.
3. The annual $150 a year is part of the cost of distributing Mac apps, t’other part is marketing and that can run into 10s of thousands of dollars.

Notarization can be included as part of the wrapping process, and typically takes less than two minutes. Apps like App Wrapper can be used to do more than just Notarize, and tied into a Xojo via a build script, so all you need to do is to build the application.

[Detlef_Kahner]

Tim & Sam are right, some years ago even I started to codesign (and later to notarize as well) my applications.
Thought, for some time before I pondered about and then I made it.
With the help of Sam’s AppWrapper application, thank you very much again for creating it.

[Jeff_Tullin]

@Sam_Rowlands

Apps like App Wrapper

There are none which are its equal.

[Sean_Clancy]

I downloaded AppWrapper - I don’t know much about it … I had a browse through the help files trying to see what it was for - I gather it’s for preparing an app for the appstore?
I am convinced that getting a certificate for code signing is a good idea - I just have to save up for it (I’m on a sickness benefit). Most of the problems I’m finding is to do with my registration tools - I made them myself. The 10 day trial works, but if I can get it out on sale through the Appstore (fat chance), I can rip out all the code as they would take care of that

[TimStreater]

@Sean_Clancy

I gather it’s for preparing an app for the appstore?

Not only the AppStore. I use it for code-signing & notarisation. I don’t use the AppStore. You’d need extra certs for that, as far as I can tell.

[Beatrix_Willius]

@Sean_Clancy

I gather it’s for preparing an app for the appstore?

Back in the day being a hobbyist wasn’t that bad. You made your software, had a website and that was it. These days it’s waayyy more complicated. You are missing basic information. Like really basic information. Do you at least have some ideas what codesigning and notarisation is about?