Random crash on quit

One of my programs randomly crashes on quit. That is a big issue because since I save defaults then, it no longer saves and people lose data.

I have filed a bug report <https://xojo.com/issue/50409> hoping to get the technical support promised for Pro licensees. But maybe that was not what to do. I do need someone to look at the crash report, and hopefully give me a hint at where the crash occurs so I can fix my code.

Here is the crash file :

Any pointer will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

PS : It is not clear how Pro licensees should request technical support. Is there any document that outlines the process ?

1 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x000860fe Listbox.DeleteAllRows%%o<Listbox> + 42 2 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x0025fe4c MiniMenu.TimerMonitorVisible_Action%%o<MiniMenu>o<Timer> + 554
The listbox is probably already gone, when the code in the timer’s Action event tries to access it.

In a timer’s Action event every object – and I mean every object – needs to be checked for Nil before accessing it.

[quote=359871:@Eli Ott]1 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x000860fe Listbox.DeleteAllRows%%o<Listbox> + 42 2 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x0025fe4c MiniMenu.TimerMonitorVisible_Action%%o<MiniMenu>o<Timer> + 554
The listbox is probably already gone, when the code in the timer’s Action event tries to access it.

In a timer’s Action event every object – and I mean every object – needs to be checked for Nil before accessing it.[/quote]

Great. That is what I needed. I am going to check for nil, then. Thank you Eli :slight_smile:

[quote=359885:@Jean-Paul Devulder]Hi Michel,

Seem write here: or on private Xojo Pro forum.[/quote]

Thank you Jean Paul. Now I know where to go :slight_smile:

OK. Random crash still here. I check for nil in listbox as advised by Eli, but that not suffice. Unhandled Exception is not triggered. Which means the crash does not live any chance for the program to continue.

I am at a complete loss, here. If I only knew where to look :confused:

The worst is the program is currently in the MAS and I get reports from customers who are legitimately angry.

Any help in deciphering the crash report will be gratefully and warmly appreciated. TIA.

Crash 20171120.rtf

[code]Process: CheckPrintR+.debug [4472]
Path: /Users/USER/Documents/*/CheckPrintR+.debug.app/Contents/MacOS/CheckPrintR+.debug
Identifier: com.matchsoftware.checkprintrplus
Version: 3.50 (3.5.0.3.1)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: ??? [1]
Responsible: CheckPrintR+.debug [4472]
User ID: 501

Date/Time: 2017-11-20 19:48:55.613 +0100
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.13.1 (17B48)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: C5F52A55-4390-AC96-F8CE-82D799D3AA47

Sleep/Wake UUID: E58E9AFE-31B1-42CE-8A15-7FF3672044A4

Time Awake Since Boot: 26000 seconds
Time Since Wake: 8900 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x00000000c0103b78
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Signal: Segmentation fault: 11
Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb
Terminating Process: exc handler [0]

VM Regions Near 0xc0103b78:
Stack 00000000bf800000-00000000c0000000 [ 8192K] rw-/rwx SM=PRV
–>
Submap 00000000ffff0000-00000000ffff1000 [ 4K] r–/r-- SM=PRV process-only VM submap

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 XojoFramework 0x00cf9bd7 editTextGetter + 29
1 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x0009ec4e TextField.Text.Get%s%oi4 + 81
2 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x002600a0 MiniMenu.TimerMonitorVisible_Action%%oo + 1045
3 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x0019970f Delegate.IM_Invoke%%o + 83
4 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x0019974e AddHandler.Stub.0%% + 51
5 XojoFramework 0x00d66240 0xbaf000 + 1798720
6 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x939169d3 CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION + 19
7 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x93916548 __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 1224
8 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x93915fbb __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 395
9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9390dbfb __CFRunLoopRun + 3211
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9390cc41 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 641
11 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9390c9aa CFRunLoopRunInMode + 122
12 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f0dd3b RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 321
13 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f0da62 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 777
14 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f0d73b _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 71
15 com.apple.AppKit 0x9136538d _DPSNextEvent + 2101
16 com.apple.AppKit 0x91ad6c74 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 2859
17 com.apple.AppKit 0x91ad6141 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 134
18 XojoFramework 0x00bf11e6 0xbaf000 + 270822
19 XojoFramework 0x00bf122f 0xbaf000 + 270895
20 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x0017fb3e Delegate.Invoke%% + 34
21 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x0006ae48 Application._CallFunctionWithExceptionHandling%%op + 248
22 XojoFramework 0x00d5db1a 0xbaf000 + 1764122
23 XojoFramework 0x00bf1187 0xbaf000 + 270727
24 com.apple.AppKit 0x9135a2e1 -[NSApplication run] + 763
25 XojoFramework 0x00d5dbba 0xbaf000 + 1764282
26 XojoFramework 0x00d5bd94 RuntimeRun + 49
27 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x0015234e REALbasic._RuntimeRun + 34
28 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x008bad7c _Main + 295
29 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x008b6410 main + 36
30 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x008cfd97 start + 53

Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: NSCGSDisableUpdates
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0xa7656d22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0xa765635f mach_msg + 47
2 com.apple.SkyLight 0xa47d5fdb CGSUpdateManager::enable_updates_common() + 507
3 com.apple.SkyLight 0xa47c8ae3 CGSUpdateManager::enable_update(unsigned long long) + 381
4 com.apple.SkyLight 0xa47d634e SLSReenableUpdateToken + 59
5 com.apple.AppKit 0x91daddf0 ___disable_updates_sync_block_invoke_2.102 + 26
6 libdispatch.dylib 0xa74d6e81 _dispatch_call_block_and_release + 15
7 libdispatch.dylib 0xa74cf69d _dispatch_client_callout + 50
8 libdispatch.dylib 0xa74e4385 _dispatch_queue_serial_drain + 601
9 libdispatch.dylib 0xa74d69d9 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 307
10 libdispatch.dylib 0xa74e5195 _dispatch_root_queue_drain_deferred_wlh + 347
11 libdispatch.dylib 0xa74e908e _dispatch_workloop_worker_thread + 742
12 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa778ce4c _pthread_wqthread + 956
13 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa778ca6a start_wqthread + 34

Thread 2:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0xa766071a __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa778ce9b _pthread_wqthread + 1035
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa778ca6a start_wqthread + 34

Thread 3:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0xa766071a __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa778d090 _pthread_wqthread + 1536
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa778ca6a start_wqthread + 34

Thread 4:
0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa778ca48 start_wqthread + 0
1 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x001e0021 NSImageMBS.!NSImageNameFontPanel%s% + 172

Thread 5:: com.apple.NSEventThread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0xa7656d22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0xa765635f mach_msg + 47
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9390e858 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 296
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9390d846 __CFRunLoopRun + 2262
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9390cc41 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 641
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9390c9aa CFRunLoopRunInMode + 122
6 com.apple.AppKit 0x914950d5 _NSEventThread + 165
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa778d50d _pthread_body + 347
8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa778d3b2 _pthread_start + 357
9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0xa778ca8e thread_start + 34

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x07823fc0 ebx: 0x00000000 ecx: 0xc010398c edx: 0x00000000
edi: 0x018a1878 esi: 0xbfffd150 ebp: 0xbfffd158 esp: 0xbfffd140
ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00010206 eip: 0x00cf9bd7 cs: 0x0000001b
ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f
cr2: 0xc0103b78

Logical CPU: 2
Error Code: 0x00000004
Trap Number: 14

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Michel, sometimes ago I did save my preferences in the Close event of my MainWindow. I had trouble since a certain version of Xojo.
I read somewhere on the Xojo forum that’s it’s better to move the save in the CancelClose event. It resolved the problem.
But for 2 or 3 Xojo version (2016 r4 or I don’t know) the random crash came back again. Same problem on my 11 applications.
I have a Timer and a flag.
My Timer TimerQuit (which is ModeOff with a period = 10) :

If App.DrapOkQuit Then Quit Else Self.Close End If
My Window.CancelClose :

Dim DrapAnnulFerme as Boolean

If App.DrapOkQuit Then ' Utile car on fait parfois cet event 2 fois (en quittant via le Dock ou etc.)
  DrapAnnulFerme = False ' On fermera la fentre, on a dj fait cet event
ElseIf appQuitting Then ' On vient du menu Quitter (celui du menu ou celui du Dock)
  DrapAnnulFerme = True ' On annule pour relancer  WinMain.Close
  TimerQuit.Mode = Timer.ModeSingle ' Car depuis Xojo 2017 l'appli quittait en plantant car, je pense, l'event  WinMain.CancelClose  ne se finissait pas puisqu'on quittait dedans
Else ' Si  DrapOkQuit  dj  Vrai on a dj fait tout ce merdier
  App.PrefsSauver ' I save my Preferences
  App.DrapOkQuit = True
  DrapAnnulFerme = True ' Sinon le Timer ne se lance pas puisqu'il est dtruit avec la fentre qui se ferme
  TimerQuit.Mode = Timer.ModeSingle ' Car depuis Xojo 2017 l'appli quittait en plantant car, je pense, l'event  WinMain.CancelClose  ne se finissait pas puisqu'on quittait dedans
End If
' MsgBox "On est dans WinMain.CancelClose" + EndOfLine + "appQuitting : " + Cstr(appQuitting) + EndOfLine + "DrapAnnulFerme = " + Cstr(DrapAnnulFerme) + EndOfLine + "DrapOkQuit = " + Cstr(App.DrapOkQuit) ' "TimerQuit.Mode = " + str(TimerQuit.Mode)

Return DrapAnnulFerme ' Close annul si  True

I never had a single crash when quitting since I do like that.

Search for the call stack of the thread which crashed – in this case thread 0.
Start on the top and go down until you app name appears – in this case the line numbered with 1.

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 XojoFramework 0x00cf9bd7 editTextGetter + 29 1 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x0009ec4e TextField.Text.Get%s%o<TextField>i4 + 81 2 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x002600a0 MiniMenu.TimerMonitorVisible_Action%%o<MiniMenu>o<Timer> + 1045 3 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x0019970f Delegate.IM_Invoke%%o<Timer> + 83 4 CheckPrintR+.debug 0x0019974e AddHandler.Stub.0%% + 51 5 XojoFramework 0x00d66240 0xbaf000 + 1798720 6 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x939169d3 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 19 7 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x93916548 __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 1224 8 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x93915fbb __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 395 9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9390dbfb __CFRunLoopRun + 3211 10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9390cc41 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 641 11 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9390c9aa CFRunLoopRunInMode + 122 ...

The line numbered with 1 is interpreted like this:

TextField.Text.Get%s%o<TextField>i4

TextField.Text.Get: Getter is called of TextField.Text
%s: return variable is a string
%o: first argument is an object of type TextField

The above has been called by:

MiniMenu.TimerMonitorVisible_Action%%o<MiniMenu>o<Timer>

MiniMenu.TimerMonitorVisible_Action: Action handler of MiniMenu.TimerMonitorVisible
%: no return value
%oo: first argument is an object of type MiniMenu, second is an object of type Timer

Note that methods in OOP languages usually are translated like that to plain functions:

obj.Method(arg1, arg2) –> Function(obj, arg1, arg2)

The TextField is most probably Nil at that point.

[quote=360644:@Jean-Paul Devulder]Hi Michel,

On your timer action, seem trying reading text value of a TextField and crash[/quote]

Thank you Jean-Paul. Seems you and Eli are onto the same issue. I will modify to test, and report.

I appreciate very much your insight and the crash(!) course in reading the log. That will certainly help. I will modify the code to test for nil, and tell if it works.

[quote=360646:@Thomas ROBISSON]Michel, sometimes ago I did save my preferences in the Close event of my MainWindow. I had trouble since a certain version of Xojo.
I read somewhere on the Xojo forum that’s it’s better to move the save in the CancelClose event. It resolved the problem.[/quote]

It is already in CancelClose. Close is not even implemented anymore.

I have been chasing this random crash for so long, I tried every trick I know of until now. Apparently both Jean-Paul and Eli have pointed to the possible culprit. I shall report the result.

Thank you all so much. I was growing desperate :slight_smile:

One of my crash logs has a similar origin with the “CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION” (I still have to locate the timer but that’s another problem). The question for me is if this could be a bug in Xojo. Shouldn’t Xojo clean up their sugar? I also don’t understand why the crashes are so random. Isn’t this something that should occur when developing? Is this a High Sierra issue?

Seems indeed Eli and Jean-Paul located the culprit. After testing for Textfield Nil it no longer crashes.

What I dont really understand is why the nil exception is not trapped. Is it because it happens at app closing time ?

At any rate, now I will sleep a lot better.

Thank you so much.

In my case the crash occurred when the app was closing. I suspect some of the hooks destined to trap errors must be already gone sometimes, and sometimes not.

I have the same issue when compiling my apps with the last couple of Xojo versions.
It always happens with timers. Sadly checking for nil does not fix the crashing in my expierience.
You need to make sure the timers aren’t doing something in the action event when quitting the app, which is very difficult to do.

I still think this is a Xojo bug. The timers, including the action event, need to be cleanup before quitting.

In my case the crash occurs with 2016R3, which means it is not a recent Xojo version. I do not discount Sierra or High Sierra, though, since the random crash never occurred before, and I had not changed the code.

Yes, very often.

You cannot generalize that. If it is an object you create, then checking for Nil will prevent crashing.

No. Most probably not.

You need to do that.