Main advantage of using Console apps

changwon_lee · March 30, 2015, 1:08pm

What’s the reason to buy Console app license?
It’s very attractive to me as I need to have slave collectors getting remote server data and pass it to main application.

One thing I’m confused is that I can build collector apps by using a normal Desktop application and through IPCSockets class.

Can anyone let me know what is the main advantage of using Console apps?
No Window screen?

Norman_P · March 30, 2015, 1:25pm

they are perfect for writing background faceless helper applications
ones that a user is not expected to interact with

changwon_lee · March 30, 2015, 1:50pm

Faceless.

That is the thing I guess.
Thank you.

Jon_Ogden · March 30, 2015, 3:31pm

Technically, you could write a desktop app without a window.

changwon_lee · March 30, 2015, 10:28pm

Thank you for the comment.
Can you let me know how to disable a windows on desktop app, just in case?

Michel_Bujardet · March 30, 2015, 10:51pm

[quote=177521:@changwon lee]Thank you for the comment.
Can you let me know how to disable a windows on desktop app, just in case?[/quote]

In the App Inspector, set Default Window to ‘None’.

Greg_O_Lone · March 30, 2015, 11:44pm

I’d put a big MAYBE in front of that. If the server doesn’t have a gui interface at all, a desktop app may still not run.

Michel_Bujardet · March 30, 2015, 11:55pm

Indeed, on most servers, a desktop app even windowless will simply not run. I did not quite realize the OP wanted to install the console programs on a server.

changwon_lee · March 31, 2015, 12:39am

Wanted to confirm that.
So, I can’t run Desktop application without any window screen. Is that right?
From my try to set Default Window to ‘None’, IDE didn’t work at all meaning that it didn’t seem to work.

Norman_P · March 31, 2015, 2:32am

Oh sure you can BUT a DESKTOP app may have requirements that a server wont meet like an installed window server or UI tool kit etc
So even though the app may not show any windows it still requires those services in order to launch

Sam_Rowlands · March 31, 2015, 5:54am

Forking!

Christian_Schmitz · March 31, 2015, 9:47am

We have a sample project on our MBS Plugin to show how to get command line parameters in GUI project and write back to stdout.

This is useful to have command line support in GUI app. And before the first window shows, the GUI system is not initialized.
Still Xojo desktop apps have entry in header that system knows it’s a desktop app, not a console one.

Michel_Bujardet · March 31, 2015, 10:00am

[quote=177600:@Christian Schmitz]We have a sample project on our MBS Plugin to show how to get command line parameters in GUI project and write back to stdout.

This is useful to have command line support in GUI app. And before the first window shows, the GUI system is not initialized.
Still Xojo desktop apps have entry in header that system knows it’s a desktop app, not a console one.[/quote]

I tried very simply to run a desktop app on a standard Linux server. No way, the appropriate X11 dependencies, among others, are not present.

Christian_Schmitz · March 31, 2015, 10:37am

yes, but if there is a GUI installed, the app can run as console. Like on Mac and Windows.

Of course I recommend changwon lee to just get a Pro license and not worry about limiting himself.

Michel_Bujardet · March 31, 2015, 10:47am

Indeed.

changwon_lee · April 1, 2015, 1:28am

Thanks for all your comments.
I have decided to buy Console license for broadening my opportunities.

Nice day!