How do I get “San Francisco” as font name when getting the system font name? The following code
[quote] dim FontSize as Double = NSFontMBS.systemFontSize
dim theFont as NSFontMBS = NSFontMBS.systemFontOfSize(FontSize)
dim FontName as String = theFont.familyName[/quote]
has .AppleSystemUIFont as result, which is kind of ugly. Or can I assume that a font name starting with a . is the system font? But then I’d have to track what the system font is for each version of Mac OS.
That may be a special placeholder for the font name.
Could you explain in more detail what you mean?
The systemFont function doesn’t tell you the real name of the font.
just a placeholder.
https://forum.xojo.com/21829-detecting-the-actual-system-font-on-osx/0
https://forum.xojo.com/20977-system-font-in-textarea/0
FWIW the system fonts are placed on my 10.11.4 system in /System/Library/Fonts
SFNSText-BoldItalic.otf
SFNSText-BoldItalicG1.otf
SFNSText-BoldItalicG2.otf
SFNSText-BoldItalicG3.otf
SFNSText-HeavyItalic.otf
SFNSText-Light.otf
SFNSText-LightItalic.otf
SFNSText-Medium.otf
SFNSText-MediumItalic.otf
SFNSText-Regular.otf
SFNSText-RegularG1.otf
SFNSText-RegularG2.otf
SFNSText-RegularG3.otf
SFNSText-RegularItalic.otf
SFNSText-RegularItalicG1.otf
SFNSText-RegularItalicG2.otf
SFNSText-RegularItalicG3.otf
SFNSText-Semibold.otf
SFNSText-SemiboldItalic.otf
Apple Color Emoji.ttf
SFNSText-Bold.otf
SFNSText-BoldG1.otf
SFNSText-BoldG2.otf
SFNSText-BoldG3.otf
SFNSText-Heavy.otf
??????????? W8.ttc
??????? ProN W3.ttc
??????? ProN W6.ttc
??????????? W3.ttc
??????????? W6.ttc
PingFang.ttc
AquaKana.ttc
??????????? W0.ttc
??????????? W1.ttc
??????????? W2.ttc
??????????? W4.ttc
??????????? W5.ttc
??????????? W7.ttc
??????????? W9.ttc
Apple Braille Outline 6 Dot.ttf
Apple Braille Outline 8 Dot.ttf
Apple Braille Pinpoint 6 Dot.ttf
Apple Braille Pinpoint 8 Dot.ttf
Apple Braille.ttf
Apple Symbols.ttc
Avenir Next Condensed.ttc
Avenir Next.ttc
Avenir.ttc
GeezaPro.ttc
HelveLTMM
Noteworthy.ttc
Optima.ttc
Palatino.ttc
SFNSDisplay-Black.otf
SFNSDisplay-Bold.otf
SFNSDisplay-Heavy.otf
SFNSDisplay-Light.otf
SFNSDisplay-Medium.otf
SFNSDisplay-Regular.otf
SFNSDisplay-Semibold.otf
SFNSDisplay-Thin.otf
SFNSDisplay-Ultralight.otf
Symbol.ttf
Times.dfont
TimesLTMM
ZapfDingbats.ttf
Courier.dfont
Geneva.dfont
Helvetica.dfont
HelveticaNeue.dfont
HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc
Keyboard.ttf
LastResort.ttf
LucidaGrande.ttc
MarkerFelt.ttc
Menlo.ttc
Monaco.dfont
Hiragino Sans GB W3.ttc
Hiragino Sans GB W6.ttc
STHeiti Light.ttc
STHeiti Medium.ttc
STHeiti Thin.ttc
STHeiti UltraLight.ttc
AppleSDGothicNeo.ttc
ArialHB.ttc
Thonburi.ttc
Kohinoor.ttc
KohinoorBangla.ttc
KohinoorTelugu.ttc
@Michel: My workaround with “.HelveticaNeue Deskinterface” doesn’t work anymore.
I am not surprised. As far as I know System Font Regular under 10.11.4 is San Francisco, not Helvetica Neue.
Note that System Font Regular exists in the system, and can even be displayed by Xojo with that name. It is in
/System/Library/Fonts/SFNSDisplay-Regular.otf
It furiously looks like San Francisco : same design (to the detail of characters), almost same spacing, the baseline slightly differs.
This is correct, the system font name may or may not return a displayable font name.
It was a huge feature at WWDC 2015, there was even an entire talk on the new system font. The designers are obviously very proud of it.
[quote=255705:@Sam Rowlands]@Michel Bujardet I am not surprised. As far as I know System Font Regular under 10.11.4 is San Francisco, not Helvetica Neue.
It was a huge feature at WWDC 2015, there was even an entire talk on the new system font. The designers are obviously very proud of it.[/quote]
… and it was such a dreadful decision. Jonathan Ive is megalomaniac. Rose gold. Flat UI. Constant nudging. Smart Battery Case. He is going to ruin Apple.
The displayname property may help.
System fonts design with 72 dpi screens are constrained by the poor rendition of curves and obliques. As a result, the fonts that best rendered were kind of angular.
It seems both Segoe UI on Windows and San Francisco (which look strangely similar) have been made possible by HiDPI.