Android Support Library

I read that Android Support Library that now support vector graphics.

So someone think this is important.

purely to acknowledge your message, no, as anything android, in my world is utterly unimportant, it simply does not exist in any way. sorry to be so blunt, just truthful.

@Mark Carlton , I guess ignorance is bliss. Enjoy your happy tiny world…

@Emile Schwarz Of course this is important. Luckly there are some forum user attempts to support SVG in Xojo but I’m still hoping Xojo will some day support it natively.

Alain: thank you for your two answers.

I do not understand Mark answer. Now I know.

[quote=250762:@Alain Bailleul]@Mark Carlton , I guess ignorance is bliss. Enjoy your happy tiny world…

@Emile Schwarz Of course this is important. Luckly there are some forum user attempts to support SVG in Xojo but I’m still hoping Xojo will some day support it natively.[/quote]

What Mark probably meant was, if it’s only available for Marshmallow (released on October 5, 2015), then it is currently only installed on 1.2 % of Android devices. Google really needs to do something about the state of updates for Android.

ignorance, as you see it, is wholly incorrect, I know, as most people do, there is absolutely no point I’m making an application for android if you have any wish to make any money.

Advancing on Roberts comments, why on earth would anyone want to spend any time trying to support a huge number of outdated operating systems that the device manufacturers don’t care about in any way shape or form.

Google are powerless too, even if they really tried, to do anything about updates as the device manufacturers may not wish for users to be able to update so they can buy another cheap phone in 6 months.

And if I were ignorant of the facts, and living in a tiny world, I would quite obviously not have the understanding or knowledge to make an accurate description of the state of android.

If you are able to provide any meaningful positive reasons as to why what my understanding of the android system, as a whole, is not as I describe, I would be very pleased to hear your comments, rather than the personal demeaning nature of your message, Alain.

Indeed it is a pity that Android phone and tablets makers have so little regard for their customers they push an update every blue moon (if ever), and that Marshmallow be such a ridiculous amount of the total devices. especially when it contains real and important innovations, in particular in terms of security.

However, it would be foolish to discount too easily a system that represents all by itself more than half the total number of computing devices worldwide. Granted, with an incredible level of fragmentation, and poor support from manufacturers, but a high level of public support.

As an individual developer of end user software titles, I dipped my toe in both iOS and Android ponds, and find their online stores both as friendly as elbowing in a rabble in hope to be noticed. Unless one has a huge promotional budget, or such a killer app that it will change the face of the world, there are probably as many chances to sell a lot than to win the Super Sweepstake.

However, for people who develop for companies, it seems pretty obvious that one better be able to offer BOTH iOS and Android, as all I see everywhere is both systems next to “Get our app”. So anyone who needs to address the corporate environment better be prepared to have a tool to produce Android apps.

For myself, B4A was the answer, as it is enough of a cousin of Xojo to remain easy to approach. Now in RAD as in cars, everybody his own preferences.

@Mark Carlton I apologize if I missed the true meaning of your message in translation. The message I read was: ‘Stop talking about Android here, I do not want to hear anything about it because in my world there is absolutely no place for anything Android. For me it’s like it doesn’t even exist’

So I hope you can see my ‘mistake’. I read it as another Android bashing message and feared yet another post on this forum was going to end in a Android vs Apple war. I did find it useful information from Emile, hence my reaction.

My vision is and stays as it has always been and is nicely put into words by Michel in his last two paragraphs. If you are not prepared to embrace Android if you develop for companies, you’re missing tons of money. But as this means more for me, maybe not a bad thing after all…

But back to topic: vector graphics, It is now already important in WebApps/sites as they have to support the different screensizes and I suppose native mobile apps better follow this trend. BTW, they are not only available for Marshmallow devices, because that’s just where the support library is for: using this lib, you can use VectorDrawable and AnimatedVectorDrawable now from respectively API 7 (2.1, Eclair) and API 11 (3.0, Honeycomb). That is well, a lot more devices!

All of which you cannot target with Xojo so it is kind of moot

So best we have it here in the off-topic section then and don’t pollute the other real Xojo topics like it has been a lot lately in some posts…

Sorry I had a bowl of KrispyKrunchy with milk for breakfast

http://www.krispykrunchy.com/

… and all I wanted to say that was… Android knows how to deal with Vector graphics (where Xojo don’t, natively).

Sorry for the noise.

Because phone makers want you to pay to update to the latest OS, so they do that by making you get a new phone. If anyone says they got their’s free with a contract, I’ll slap 'em. Even if you pay no additional cost on top of your contract, a portion of your monthly fee goes to pay for the phone.

In the past I thought that FREE updates was brilliant, that was until the terms and conditions changed, and I unwittingly became a unpaid QA tester for a certain company. Now I don’t update. I’m tired of things no longer working, like the actual phone part of the phone.

As it is, I’m typing this on a computer that gets FREE updates, to which the wi-fi connection has become utter crap since the last FREE update (and to boot it no wired ports either).

Yes.

I updated my Windows 8.1 laptop to Windows 10… I had to reinstall tons of software, my external minitor does not worked (and so the software for ElGato EyeTV, etc.).

So, there is Free OS Update and collateral update costs (cost to upgrade the software to versions compatible with the free OS upgrade :(.

I know that since the mid 1985, but suffering from that let you really understand what the trouble is.

OS X updates usually goes silently (it never asked me to reinstall a compatible software using its own (same) installer to re-install it…

The trouble is, I’m not used to that ■■■■. Some people buy Macs to get away from that kind of crap. Now we have it too, it’s not a feature. It simply shows that Apple doesn’t care about software as much as they used too.

Indeed at some point the assumption, especially amongst low end Android phones, is that they are kind of disposable.