MacBooks: whats happening..

Thin like a piece of paper. :wink:

So thin that there is only one side to it :stuck_out_tongue:

Apple once distinguished between power models (MacBook Pro), portability models (MacBook Air), and budget models (MacBook).

Trying to shoehorn all three into one is “Ive’s Folly” …

I’m not disagreeing with anything that has been said here, but I have a 2017 MBP with 16 gig RAM and 1TB SSD and it is exceptional. Yes, you do need to get used to the USB-C, but there are plenty of adapters around so that’s not a big thing. It has 4 USB-C ports and they can all be used for charging as well as some docks now have pass-through charging.

It’s quiet, never hot, and faster than any previous laptop I’ve owned.

Yes, MBP’s are still a premium item but if you carefully do an apples-to-apples comparison, I think you’ll find that you are still getting your money’s worth. Besides, it’s the only option if you want to run OS X.

It also runs Windows (via VMWare) better than any PC.

Just my 2 cents.

During a day at my university I often work in different rooms, with different technical equipment. Luckily I still have an 8 year old MPB, so I do not have to carry too much additional stuff around. But with a current MBP life would be more complicated. Examples:

  1. To be able to deliver my presentations when teaching, I would need an USB-C to VGA and HDMI adaptor, because in most rooms there are only VGA cables/connectors, but in some rooms there are HDMI cables/connectors.
  2. Also I would need an USB-C to ethernet adaptor, because the wireless network is sometimes unreliable and/or slow.
  3. Also the students sometimes bring their presentations and assignments on USB-thumb drives (so another adaptor would be needed),
  4. and somtimes I even have to read DVDs or CD-ROMs (an external DVD-drive would be needed).
  5. Sometimes we make photos or videos from experiments (I teach physics) and to transfer the data from the cameras to the current MBP I would also need an adaptor for SD-cards.
  6. Our printers and scanners still have traditional USB-A connectors, to be able to use them, I would need an adaptor.

Nearly all students have inexpensive Windows Notebooks that cost only a fraction of the price of the current MBP, and they do not need any adaptors to do/use all the stuff I mentioned before!

The current MBP is surely a fine machine, but in some usage scenarios I think it does not deserve to be called „Pro“ any more. Maybe in a couple of years, most peripherals will have USB-C connectors… Removing all other connector types from the MBP was way to early.

Apple’s not usually going where things were but to where they are headed
But sometimes they are far faster to see & push these changes than the rest of the industry

While the Touchbar may not be so great for everyone, the Touch ID finger print sensor is great way to unlock the machine!
The 5K display is also great.

Yes, thinest is not everything, but did you notice that new iPhones and Apple Watch are not thinner?
Maybe we are the point where they accept a little bit more thickness to get features in.

[quote=351105:@Norman Palardy]Apple’s not usually going where things were but to where they are headed
But sometimes they are far faster to see & push these changes than the rest of the industry[/quote]
That’s when the cutting edge becomes the bleeding edge … :wink:

I think Apple delivered a very good solution with the current 2017 iMac models, a solution that is future proof AND that also works now, in the present times. The new iMacs have: 4 x USB 3, 2 x USB-C, Gigabit Ethernet, SDXC-Card slot, headphone jack. They also made it possible again, to update/change RAM in the 21"iMacs (of course, you have to take apart the whole machine when doing this).

The 27inch iMac wont fit in my briefcase, sadly. Give me those ports on a Macbook, and I’ll be happy

Yes, the 27" iMac is a tiny bit to large to fit in my laptop bag, too. :wink:

Maybe the new iMacs, the announcement of the iMac Pro and the announcement of a redesigned Mac Pro shows that Apple is listening to user complaints. We will see what the future brings for the MBP.

FYI - The 2017 MacBook Pros do not have a negative power budget. The USB-C power supply is capable of supplying 80 Watts. If the system/CPU is busy, maybe it draws about 40 Watts.