Lightroom 5 hasn’t been a feasible environment for years, and you’re missing out on all of the BEST features Adobe has implemented over the past few. Pay the $10/month or whatever for the Adobe photographer subscription monthly and get full use of modern and updated Photoshop/Lightroom.
Yes, years ago, I initially balked at switching over from old PS/LR fixed licenses to the subscription model.
No, I would never want to be using those incredibly old versions of PS/LR today.
Ever? Clearly you never had to work with MacOS 8.
There’s no macOS 8, we had Mac OS 8.
The macOS series starts with 10.0, and it is an entire series based on NextStep OS.
Mac OS Classic ended at Mac OS 9.
I’m not paying £10/month for something I use a few times a year. Xojo is different; I use that several times a day.
What LR5 does is perfectly adequate for our use here.
I also notice a couple more graphics glitches:
I play McSolitaire from time to time. Under Sonoma, I notice that as it deals the cards, occasionally the graphic stops as if time has stopped. If I move the mouse fractionally, it continues. This never happened before.
I have a Safari tab with this Forum on it. It reliably gave me, as and when, the blue bar at the top with “There are x new/updated messages” or whatever it is. Now, more often that not, I have to refresh the page to get new messages.
Thank you for that clarification. It was extremely useful.
You’re welcome.
The only other nuances I would add is that what are known as the NeXTSTEP successors have actually had quite a few naming changes through the years…
Mac OS X
Spans the preview version through Lion (10.7)
1999 - 2011
OS X
Spans Mountain Lion (10.8) through El Capitan (10.11)
2012 - 2015
macOS
Spans Sierra (10.12) through today
2016 - Now
There’s also an odd overlap in that in 2015 you had…
OS X El Capitan (10.11)
but also…
macOS Server 5
But mind you, all this is mostly marketing naming subtleties.
The macOS series made a rebrand of the entire series, so the historical “Mac OS X” or “OS X”, are all now known as macOS “version” (nickname) or you may use the historical name. Like “Mac OS X Lion”, or macOS 10.7, or macOS Lion, or macOS 10.7 Lion. I just prefer macOS 10.7, sometimes, in context, I may say just Lion, but never more I’ll use “Mac OS X Lion” unless in some historical context.
macOS does not expands from 10.12, it’s the entire series 10.0+ now.
System 7 suffered the same thing. Started as System 7, and later was rebranded as Mac OS 7.
The Apple website lists the entire macOS family as
As updates that change a macOS version number become available, this table is updated to show the latest version of that macOS. If a later version is compatible with your Mac.
| macOS | Latest version |
|---|---|
| macOS Sonoma | 14.4 |
| macOS Ventura | 13.6.5 |
| macOS Monterey | 12.7.4 |
| macOS Big Sur | 11.7.10 |
| macOS Catalina | 10.15.7 |
| macOS Mojave | 10.14.6 |
| macOS High Sierra | 10.13.6 |
| macOS Sierra | 10.12.6 |
| OS X El Capitan | 10.11.6 |
| OS X Yosemite | 10.10.5 |
| OS X Mavericks | 10.9.5 |
| OS X Mountain Lion | 10.8.5 |
| OS X Lion | 10.7.5 |
| Mac OS X Snow Leopard | 10.6.8 |
| Mac OS X Leopard | 10.5.8 |
| Mac OS X Tiger | 10.4.11 |
| Mac OS X Panther | 10.3.9 |
| Mac OS X Jaguar | 10.2.8 |
| Mac OS X Puma | 10.1.5 |
| Mac OS X Cheetah | 10.0.4 |
Sure this makes sense if you’re okay with rewriting history based upon the whims of some marketing department.
At least for me, if something shipped as Acme Widget 2.0 but a decade or more later Acme decides to rename Widget to Gadget, I’m still going to call it Acme Widget 2.0. But I’m generally agreeable to the new things being called Gadget from the marketing change forward.
Maybe I’m not pedantic enough, but if I’ve still got a boxed copy of Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar), I’m not going to retroactively start calling it macOS. But some might call me odd in this way. Heck in some cases I might even forcibly keep using the old name in-spite of marketing edicts such as with the Mazda Miata which in the U.S. has been MX-5 for many years now.
P.S. I’m not really sure Apple itself is making the case that the entire lineage is now macOS. So although they refer to things today as macOS, they’re still using the older names and hence Mac OS X Leopard hasn’t been retroactively renamed to macOS Leopard.
I’m not rewriting the history. I’m showing facts and history.
Ask them to remove 10.0 to 10.11 from the macOS list because you don’t agree with their decisions.
For me you can call your OS by any name, include or exclude whatever you want. It’s your private space at home.
Ah I think I better understand what you’re saying now.
Are you saying that because Apple states “Which macOS versions are the latest?” this implies that all versions are now macOS?
If so, this is perfectly congruent with what I’m saying about historical names without all of them now being called macOS. The way I read this is that they’re using the exact phrase “macOS” as that’s what the lineage is called today. Grammatically and from a flow perspective this is better to say than the factually and more precise wording of “Which Mac OS X, OS X, or macOS versions are the latest?”.
So no, I don’t think then that Apple is trying to rewrite history here nor do I believe they’re trying to retroactively rename everything to macOS. They’re just trying to be a bit more graceful in their wording in spite of some nuance being lost.
Looks like we need to call in a referee who specializes in pissing matches.
Making things short, Apple says: macOS = 10.0+ (until next cut, rename, etc)
Sorry to @Eric_Williams @Rick_Araujo and others here. My intention wasn’t for this to be any kind of match or even to stray off topic here. I was just simply trying to add some value and expand on the OS naming history. I apologize if my words gave anyone offense or if folks thought I was acting with ill intentions. That’s not what I was shooting for and maybe I failed along the way.
Steve Jobs was a visionary who bridged the gap between using technology and understanding how it works. Jobs was innovative, deeply considered, a creative thinker who pursued excellence.
Tim Cook is an accountant (!)
I updated to Sonoma 14.4 since I was suggested to, but I deeply regret it. Lots of bugs, especially with Microsoft Office, Java apps and printerdrivers. Did not encounter these problems with the previous Sonoma version. Hope they wil fix these regressions soon.
So buggy even Apple can’t find the bugs 
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Unfortunately, most bugs encountered since 14.4 update, are not fixed with 14.4.1