Of course, each has his job in a company. But I was only referring to those who effectively contribute to the development/coding of the Xojo framework. Therein lies the productive problem mentioned above. Not the e.g. administrative and managerial tasks.
It was certainly not meant to be derogatory to you, your sister or Geoff. If it came across that way, my sincere apologies.
I’m not sure if you actually think Dana and Alyssa are sisters and Geoff’s daughters or if you’re just trying to be insulting. The three are in no way related and Dana and Alyssa contribute greatly to Xojo.
I’ve talked privately to Jeffrey and we have cleared up the misunderstanding, I will reopen this topic. However, my previous message about not bashing/belittling Xojo employees or other members of the forum still stands - don’t do it.
We take a lot of pride in our work and try to keep an eye on these discussions so we can address concerns and learn about pain points. Our annual developer survey will be coming out this week and I encourage you to put this feedback on there if it is a priority for you.
You need to define what you mean by “Good (UX/UI) design”.
What Gen Z thinks of as “good design” vs what old-school types like me think of as good design are clearly totally different.
I have job to do. I want apps that do what i want, with minimum fuss, and don’t shove unnecessary distractions in the way (notably dialog boxes and prompts).
I’m not interested in ritzy graphics in wild purple.
The latest offender being Microsoft Windows again, and its persistent efforts to shove a “feed” in my face which I didn’t ask for.
This for me is the problem. “Modern” means you assume that what’s come before must be replaced simply because it’s not new, regardless of how good it was or whether what you’re replacing it with is actually better. And “Clean” seems to have come to mean removal of elements of past UIs that actually made them more usable, like the three-dimensionality that offers visual cues as to whether or not a button is pressed. The universal move to flat, two-dimensional elements with the faintest definition might satisfy some art student’s idea of modernity, but it sure doesn’t make it more usable imo.
Modern mean 2023 feelings. A lot of American developers are still using UI kits from 2000. in Europe, they mostly use 2020+ UI kits and also in China. Again, we are in 2023, not in 1970.
Ant Design System is one of the best UI/UX kit, made in China.
That is the difference beetween a tool for personal use an a public app, in the first one, it only matters your opinion, in the second one, you need to put the finbal user first and do what they need/use/improve their work even if you dont like it.
(It is obvios that not all the users want the exact same thing but there are trends and consensus of what the majority wants/needs/want to use)