Bizarre problem with new build 2025 R3.1

What about not wanting to store documents on servers over Internet (privacy)?

Git is not a cloud required software. You can use it with a cloud provider, you don’t have to.

If you want to be your own cloud provider, I made that super easy to do with Lifeboat and it doesn’t require payment to use the feature :slight_smile:

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No, I have been 2025r3 for a few months, and earlier versions for much longer, and I had no issues.

What I mean is: do the same steps as your original post but instead of 2025r3.1 do it with 2025r3. If you have no problems, do the same steps again with 2025r3.1, just to make sure that is a new problem with 2025r3.1.

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Even with all the signs posted, you still smoked?

When I was a kid, I had a job working for a 7up distributor. The guy that was in charge of the event division took us out back one day while smoking a cigar and showed us how to fill the propane cooking tanks… all while having that cigar hanging out of his mouth. We lived that day, only by the grace of god.

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For the longest time I used Google Drive to get my work code to home. After a few instances of Google Drive deciding to stop syncing automatically, and having a zillion copies of my stuff, I broke down and installed GitHub Desktop. So easy a caveman could do it!

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Avoid One Drive for your Xojo code

A good friend at church told me this morning that his One Drive has been filling up with spam PDF files that spammers are ā€˜sharing’ with him based on his email address alone. Apparently it is a known issue and he’s trying to turn it off. My concern was whether the spammers could ā€˜see’ your files, whether the PDF files can contain virus code and whether the PDF files might contain dodgy or explicit content.

I run a local Forgejo instance in a docker container on my NAS for private projects and use GitHub for projects I wish to make public. Super easy to setup and use.

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Sorry, somehow my reply did not get saved.

So what I said is that I have been using 2025r3 and earlier with no problems. 2 days later upgraded then problems. None of the other applications have any issues.

I understand that.
What I want to know is that you can do the same steps that you did with r3.1 with r3, that means, install r3 (if you already removed it), copy items from that another app (old app) to re-use in the new app, and not get errors.
Many times a new problem with a new version is because we are doing some things that we usually don’t do. I don’t know if you usually copy items from an old app into a new app.
Also can you create a sample project that you can zip and share here where you:

I can then edit the new app, but the save button in the new app is not enabled after I make a change.

it is very strange that:

I can saveas and it appears to be saving but when I re-run the new app it does not have the changes I just made.

I have seen (in the past) people that save as, the app is saved elsewhere or in different format (binary vs text) and they open the older program instead of the new saved one. I’m not saying that this is happening here, just trying to make sure that the problem is r3.1 and not something else, like OS putting the file in read-only mode for some strange reason.

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And I have received warnings when I use Save As if I’m saving in a folder that is not empty.

As I said, most likely the Save As has nothing to do with the problem. We don’t need to focus on that. Thank you.