Why Avast is Terrible (for all you with false positives)

I know a lot of people here are sick of the false positives with anti-viral software.
Maybe this will make you feel better about it :slight_smile:

(reddit source)

It has become much more intrusive than ever before. I have used it for at least 17 years now, and it appears to be getting more and more intrusive. I wonder though… is this the same for all of them?

Tim

I had the honor to know Peter Norton way back when. His Norton Antivirus was a clever, no nonsense, straight to the point program that did what it needed to do without breaking china.

Since it has been sold to Symantec, it became a bloated mammoth that has no regard for anything, siting its big azz in the middle of the leaving room, drinking all the bers in the fridge and monopolizing the sofa.

Same thing happened with McAfee.

Avast started the same way as a discrete piece of software, but as time goes by it takes over the entire machine and decides itself who lives or dies. It has overstayed its welcome. Time to kick it in the derrire big time.

I regularly have customers who tell me they cannot launch their software, and sure enough, Avast is the culprit.

I went to the Avast site. They have a page where to report false positives and upload your app :
https://www.avast.com/en-us/false-positive-file-form.php

I am going to send them all my apps.

Edit : actually, my apps exceed the 50 MB of the page I linked to. Click on whitelist, and it lets you report your app with a link to online storage.

… missing MacKeeper as security tool and Ask as search engine suggestion, of course with a bunch of other toolbars and browser plugins…

Did I mention that I hate AV Software? Norton was known for its locking your PC down cause background scan processes wasted all your ressources. Avast is known for its false-positive alarms for years and many many others for their intrusive, annoying ads and warning messages. And everybody of us know at least one with old signatures and patterns who thinks he’s save but isn’t.

Many AV solutions doesn’t work with windows group policies or App Locker esp. when using App Whitelisting. This is the most and only one protection everybody should enable and it’s built-in since WinXP. Protect your AppData and Temp Folders! Prevent start of unknown executables and do not work with admin priviledges. That’s it. No AV needed! This strategy hardens any OS even Windows!

The only AV solutions I would suggest are MS Essentials for home users and Trendmicro as server-based solution for business users. Everything else is just crap and I am not alone:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/antivirus-is-bad/

Whatever we say here, fact remains a vast majority of machines are in fact running some version of AV.

In November 2016, Avast was number one with close to 20% of the AV market.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/271048/market-share-held-by-antivirus-vendors-for-windows-systems/

My problem is not so much that AV are ridiculous pieces of feces, it is that they should not impair my app’s working. Each customer who tries the evaluation on a scatologic Avast equipped machines thinks it does not work. As a result, my app is summarily dismissed.

Hopefully having it whitelisted will prevent that from happening anymore.

We use Trendmicro at work and I don’t like it, it does much of what you describe here: [quote=316070:@Tomas Jakobs]Did I mention that I hate AV Software? Norton was known for its locking your PC down cause background scan processes wasted all your ressources. Avast is known for its false-positive alarms for years and many many others for their intrusive, annoying ads and warning messages.[/quote]

We all have our “favorite” AV.

I tested Norton, Kapersky, Avast, BitDefender, Avira, and several others, that I disliked for various reasons, some the same as mentioned above. I settled on Eset NOD32. I acquired the minimal package, configured it to do just its AV job and as little else as possible. I like also Malwarebytes, which supplements AV programs. It catches things that AV programs often overlook. I rarely have false positives with this tag team. My machine does not suffer too much in terms of performance.

Your mileage may vary.

I filed for whitelist of Check Writer III and Check Print’R a couple hours ago, and just received note from Avast that this will be added to the next stream.

Their program may be pesky, but their service is very nice.

:wink: well I guess it’s the same if we would talk about women: “I like her, she’s wonderful.”, “Oh no! She looks ugly” :wink:

[quote=316094:@Michel Bujardet]I filed for whitelist of Check Writer III and Check Print’R a couple hours ago, and just received note from Avast that this will be added to the next stream.

Their program may be pesky, but their service is very nice.[/quote]

Well to me it sounds like dealing with symptoms. It’s not a final solution cause your next version might create a false-positive again. A reasonable solution would be an easy App Whitelisting, but then no AV would be needed.

Let us be pragmatic here. All I want is to make sure my app does not get stopped. If that means filing 200 times, I’ll file that much.

ja Michel you’re right, sometimes I tend to get lost in my daydreams… lets get back to work…

There’s a niche in the market guys, a service to submit an app to all the virus sites for white listing. Build a nice console addition for it so you can put it in your build/release process :slight_smile: I’ll take 5% for the idea :wink:

wait a second… I create a trojan horse, register it and having a free-ride-ticket? sounds great :wink:

I think the virus companies do due diligence on all requests, at least they should

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