# Ventura and Xojo 2022R2 working fine for me **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [October 25, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845 "2022-10-25T00:03:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Trig\_Charters1](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ecccb3/32.png) [@Trig\_Charters1](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Trig_Charters1)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/1 "2022-10-25T00:03:57Z")
Hi, I upgraded to Ventura this morning and can report that what I do with Xojo 2022R2 seems to work fine. I’ve run the app in debug mode, built it, tested it and found no issue at all. I do accept that your experience may vary, I don’t use databases, plugins, console, IOS Android or very many controls at all. I also avoid object usage as much as possible. Most of my core code is also written in Assembler so you understand how different my projects are. The only thing that was worrying me was an augmented Thread but even this performed without issue and with a similar or better level of performance than Monterey. I hope everyone’s experience is as seamless… TC ---
**Author:** ![Bob\_Keeney3](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@Bob\_Keeney3](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Bob_Keeney3)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 12:09am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/2 "2022-10-25T00:09:53Z")
Are you on an Intel Mac or Apple Silcon? I’ve heard that it’s an issue with Intel Macs ---
**Author:** ![Trig\_Charters1](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ecccb3/32.png) [@Trig\_Charters1](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Trig_Charters1)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/3 "2022-10-25T00:17:11Z")
HI, I’m on an Apple Studio M1Max, my Intel box is too old to run Ventura, unfortunately as I loved it… TC ---
**Author:** ![Beatrix\_Willius](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/beatrix_willius/32/282_2.png) [@Beatrix\_Willius](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Beatrix_Willius)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 3:46am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/4 "2022-10-25T03:46:11Z")
> [@Trig\_Charters1](#): > > I hope everyone’s experience is as seamless… There were multiple crash problems with 2022r2. The worst for me was this one: Hard crash on Ventura when accessing RuntimeException.stack [https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/69777](https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/69777) So please don’t use 2022r2 for Ventura. ---
**Author:** ![Edwin\_van\_den\_Akker](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/edwin_van_den_akker/32/1063_2.png) [@Edwin\_van\_den\_Akker](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Edwin_van_den_Akker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 10:39am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/7 "2022-10-25T10:39:45Z")
With me the IDE crashes every time I start it 😕 I just downloaded 22 R3.1 and upgraded my Mac to Ventura last night. ![Screenshot 2022-10-25 at 12.35.15](https://forum.xojo.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6a7016424a08f693e1b79f2016e8e9280ab71fdd.png) ---
**Author:** ![Ian\_Kennedy](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/ian_kennedy/32/6860_2.png) [@Ian\_Kennedy](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Ian_Kennedy)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 11:03am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/8 "2022-10-25T11:03:42Z")
I’ve just upgraded to Ventura and 2022r3.1 and don’t see this problem. When does it crash? If it is during build then you should try clearing you Xojo cache etc. ---
**Author:** ![Beatrix\_Willius](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/beatrix_willius/32/282_2.png) [@Beatrix\_Willius](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Beatrix_Willius)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 11:22am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/9 "2022-10-25T11:22:13Z")
> [@Edwin\_van\_den\_Akker](#): > > I just downloaded 22 R3.1 and upgraded my Mac to Ventura last night. Ouch! I had that for quite a while and only every second start would work. Can you post the crash log? Have you tried to delete the cache files? I always forget where the files are and use Find Any File to nuke everything. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Araujo](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/rick_araujo/32/251_2.png) [@Rick\_Araujo](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Rick_Araujo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 11:39am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/10 "2022-10-25T11:39:39Z")
Click on Report… ---
**Author:** ![Edwin\_van\_den\_Akker](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/edwin_van_den_akker/32/1063_2.png) [@Edwin\_van\_den\_Akker](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Edwin_van_den_Akker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 11:44am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/11 "2022-10-25T11:44:24Z")
It’s crazy. But after 3 tries, it seems to work. #FingersCrossed ---
**Author:** ![Beatrix\_Willius](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/beatrix_willius/32/282_2.png) [@Beatrix\_Willius](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Beatrix_Willius)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 11:46am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/12 "2022-10-25T11:46:16Z")
Please check if your crash is similar to [https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/69894](https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/69894) or not. Then make a new ticket. ---
**Author:** ![ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/u/ChristopheDV)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/13 "2022-10-25T13:18:04Z")
If you are using MBS, you definitely need the latest beta too. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_O](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/greg_o/32/22785_2.png) [@Greg\_O](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Greg_O)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/14 "2022-10-26T01:34:21Z")
I’m curious, of those who have had trouble with their apps, could you tell us what model computer it was on? It seems so elusive, I’m wondering if it’s limited to a particular processor like the Haswell issues we had a while ago. ---
**Author:** ![ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/u/ChristopheDV)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 7:07am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/15 "2022-10-26T07:07:44Z")
I had the crashes on my MBP M1 Pro and Studio M1 Max ---
**Author:** ![Edwin\_van\_den\_Akker](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/edwin_van_den_akker/32/1063_2.png) [@Edwin\_van\_den\_Akker](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Edwin_van_den_Akker)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/16 "2022-10-26T11:47:47Z")
**iMac 27" 2020.** But after a system reboot, and a couple of IDE restarts the crashes disappeared. I forgot to save the crash reports. So, I might never know what the problem was. ![Edwin's iMac27](https://forum.xojo.com/uploads/default/original/2X/1/1a6f92a2d81ee2dbc92f795dbd89be89caa8a898.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_D](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/mike_d/32/266_2.png) [@Mike\_D](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Mike_D)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/ventura-and-xojo-2022r2-working-fine-for-me/72845/17 "2022-10-26T14:19:05Z")
Crash reports are saved for you - open Console.app and show the sidebar: ![image](https://forum.xojo.com/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c2a32dd33a0cb930e41d6eab301970810c427ec4.jpeg)