the creators of Xojo

But you should visit Boston, it’s a great place. An evil baseball team, but wonderful city.

A place where businesses are required to hire members of unions to perform setup and maintenance. Such requirements come with much higher costs to the business, and greater restrictions on their flexibility. Need to change a lightbulb? You can’t just run to the corner drug store, buy one, and change it yourself, you have to pay two union members to do it, one to do the labor and another to supervise. Or stuff along those lines.

Kem, France is a large unionized country :wink:

France is a largely unionized country. That’s why they are always on strike :wink:

I’m also pretty confident that XDC will never take place in France either. :slight_smile:

depending on they city, the venue, and the unions involved it could be worse than that. I was at a conference in a “union-controlled city” that we could not plug out laptops into the projectors nor audio cables into the laptops. To plugin/unplug required a union staff member to do it for you. Not talking at the AV console or wall connections, but at the laptop end itself. And they charged $50 for each plugin or unplug. Now not all UCCs are that strict but they are much stricter than non-UCCs.

now in non-UCCs there are some venues that are heavily unionized and have similar restrictions. Never as strong as they city is not pushing the unions.

what a wonderful world we live in.

I am not saying that is wrong. but I never would say that/point that out. I would point out about a given union striking but not a country. As it is hard for me to believe that a WHOLE country is striking. Someone has to be working for the strikers to be striking against.

Let’s not take this topic down the wrong path. I wasn’t trying to start a conversation on the goods/evils of unions, merely pointing out the “why”, as it was explained to me, certain venues will not be considered for XDC.

Hartford would be very convenient for me, but ranks right up there with “Des Moines, Iowa” on the list of locations that will never happen. Hartford is a useless craphole of a city.

If I were a betting man, I’d say Austin is up next, possibly Orlando again the year after. Vegas I don’t think will happen again.

Our ‘unions’ have nothing to do with US ‘unions’, we can change out lightbulbs ourselves ; -)

Our ‘unions’ only exist for peoples to protect their rights against their bosses, and eventually (often in some cases) to go on strike, but this, mostly inside big companies (often owned by the government).

But never to enforce you to do something the way they dictate it. This does not exist here.

Dana already said it will be neither Vegas nor Orlando next year.

Yeah I know. That’s why I said Orlando possibly the year after. It was a good location, just needs a break is all.

If San Diego can host Comic-Con is should be able to handle XDC :slight_smile:

I see so many similarities with VB6 (and that’s makes me very happy becaus it’s the only language Im familiar with) that I thought that the engineers from Xojo were people who have worked with Ms Visual Basic… I was having this “romantic” idea of people like me trying to find or create the new VB7 since Microsoft has abandoned us for that shitty VB.Net !

I would love to go again to Denver / Boulder. Than we can make trip to rocky mountains :slight_smile:

Strike? What’s that? I wonder if we even have word for that, in Switzerland …

You know, the last time we could vote for longer vacations and shorter working weeks, the majority voted against.

Switzerland.

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Just wondering what happened in Vegas that would prevent it from being there again? Although I couldn’t attend because of schedule conflict, the location seemed good…

You’d have to ask Dana, but from my perspective (a feeling shared by a few, I think), it was just too massive. In years past, if you came back from, say, a walk, you might run into a few people in the lobby or bar and strike up a conversation. That was just impossible in Las Vegas.

From a business perspective, there is also a desire to “own” the hotel. At the Monte Carlo - and pretty much any hotel in Vegas - XDC isn’t even a drop in the bucket to them. It leaves Xojo with little leverage.

An European XDC would be very much appreciated by the European Xojo developers. :wink: