# Reducing application size **URL:** \ **Category:** macOS\ **Created:** [November 25, 2024, 3:35am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/reducing-application-size/83324 "2024-11-25T03:35:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DetlefK](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/detlefk/32/23653_2.png) [@DetlefK](https://forum.xojo.com/u/DetlefK)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/reducing-application-size/83324/21 "2024-11-26T16:44:35Z")
> [@Sam\_Rowlands](#): > > Compressing images is useful, but with Xojo made apps, most of the weight is either the compiled application or the Xojo framework (which has also grown in size). Yes, this is true. Even in the past I noticed that as well. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_D](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/mike_d/32/266_2.png) [@Mike\_D](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Mike_D)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/reducing-application-size/83324/22 "2024-11-26T17:02:15Z")
> [@Rick\_Araujo](#): > > WebView2 is present on Windows 11, may or not be present on Windows 10, There are claims that “97%” of all Windows installs (10 and 11) have it. Supposedly it was rolled out in the 1803 (March 2018) update across the board. In my opinion, Xojo should: - add WebView2 as the “Native” HTMLViewer option - mark CEF support as “deprecated”, but not remove it right away Although Xojo could support both CEF and WebVIew2 in theory, I think with their limited resources they really would be best served by focusing on WebView2 only… ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Araujo](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/rick_araujo/32/251_2.png) [@Rick\_Araujo](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Rick_Araujo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/reducing-application-size/83324/23 "2024-11-26T17:38:06Z")
> [@Mike\_D](#): > > mark CEF support as “deprecated” At the current time, no way. Make it an option as I said, for possibly a long time, let’s see. That will be your plan B. It will save you from troubles with WebView2 with some users or their systems needing basically to clean their HD/SSD and reinstall their OS’s to make it work. > [@Mike\_D](#): > > There are claims that “97%” of all Windows installs (10 and 11) have it I did a fast research here with my user base. 13.1395% of the active users this month don’t have it. And from those 13% there are Win10, Win 8.1, Win 8 and even some courageous Win 7 people already alerted to upgrade their systems. Interestingly my largest group uses 10.0.19045 (Still Win 10), I was expecting Win 11 already. ---
**Author:** ![ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/u/ChristopheDV)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/reducing-application-size/83324/24 "2024-11-26T19:27:12Z")
> [@Rick\_Araujo](#): > > And from those 13% there are Win10, Win 8.1, Win 8 and even some courageous Win 7 people already alerted to upgrade their systems. IMO users that still use the very old Win7 or Win8 will not pay money for software and therefore can be ignored. Sounds harsh but it’s true. My app for Windows is Win10 and 11 only and sales did not decline when I dissed Win7 and Win8 support. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Araujo](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/rick_araujo/32/251_2.png) [@Rick\_Araujo](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Rick_Araujo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/reducing-application-size/83324/25 "2024-11-26T19:36:35Z")
> [@ChristopheDV](#): > > IMO users that still use the very old Win7 or Win8 will not pay money for software and therefore can be ignored. Well… They pay me. And I requested them to move on and they ignored me. But… anyway, I have a fraction of Win10 users without WebView2, and even by this rule I do not intend to harm either these, nor those with Windows 11 and a broken WebView2. For them I intend to have an embedded CEF ready version. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Rowlands](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/sam_rowlands/32/265_2.png) [@Sam\_Rowlands](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Sam_Rowlands)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/reducing-application-size/83324/26 "2024-11-27T02:31:56Z")
@Geoff_Perlman what would it take to get Xojo to focus on addressing the increasing app sizes? ---
**Author:** ![Geoff\_Perlman](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/geoff_perlman/32/48_2.png) [@Geoff\_Perlman](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Geoff_Perlman)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/reducing-application-size/83324/27 "2024-11-27T16:52:33Z")
It’s strictly a question of priority. Of course it is possible to make a default app smaller. But that has to be prioritized along with all the other things on our very long list of priorities. There are some places where there could be easy wins and we will certainly do those as we come across them. Remember that we don’t have unlimited bandwidth so any time we make something a priority, something that was on that list may get pushed off further. ---
**Author:** ![ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/u/ChristopheDV)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/reducing-application-size/83324/28 "2024-11-27T17:32:41Z")
> [@Geoff\_Perlman](#): > > It’s strictly a question of priority. Of course it is possible to make a default app smaller. But that has to be prioritized along with all the other things on our very long list of priorities Hmm… I would vote for this to get it a higher priority. Size (in this case smaller) does matter. ---
**Author:** ![Geoff\_Perlman](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/geoff_perlman/32/48_2.png) [@Geoff\_Perlman](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Geoff_Perlman)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/reducing-application-size/83324/29 "2024-11-27T17:45:46Z")
You can do that by upvoting the issue at [issues.xojo.com](http://issues.xojo.com). ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Rowlands](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/sam_rowlands/32/265_2.png) [@Sam\_Rowlands](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Sam_Rowlands)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/reducing-application-size/83324/30 "2024-11-28T02:46:38Z")
Here’s a list of the issues that affect Mac builds. [https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/38453](https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/38453) [https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/75632](https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/75632) [https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/75769](https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/75769) Lets see if we can some more votes to these cases so they can become Xojo’s priority. ---
**Author:** ![kevin\_g](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/65b543/32.png) [@kevin\_g](https://forum.xojo.com/u/kevin_g)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 7:56am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/reducing-application-size/83324/31 "2024-11-28T07:56:19Z")
This one as well. [https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/51763](https://tracker.xojo.com/xojoinc/xojo/-/issues/51763) [Previous page](https://forum.xojo.com/t/reducing-application-size/83324.md?page=1)