# Plugins not loading after switch to new XOJO release **URL:** \ **Category:** macOS\ **Created:** [November 24, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135 "2020-11-24T14:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/peter_kronenberg/32/2891_2.png) [@Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Peter_Kronenberg)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/1 "2020-11-24T14:22:00Z")
I installed the new XOJO 2020/2 release and copied my MBS plugins into the plugins folder. However, no plugin is beeing loaded when launching XOJO ![Screenshot 2020-11-24 at 15.17.53](https://forum.xojo.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/0848e61fa3189ffa322e4c63041fa55a00d41743.png) ![Screenshot 2020-11-24 at 15.17.41](https://forum.xojo.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/71f6631a7d92693cf57e8be606fff4d57114f621.jpeg) … Anyone having the same issue? ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Schmitz](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/christian_schmitz/32/158_2.png) [@Christian\_Schmitz](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Christian_Schmitz)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/2 "2020-11-24T14:23:31Z")
Xojo is in quarantine? use xattr -cr with path to Xojo in Terminal to remove. See feedback case 58591 Detect quarantine for Xojo app ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/peter_kronenberg/32/2891_2.png) [@Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Peter_Kronenberg)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/3 "2020-11-24T17:09:09Z")
Well, if is put in ‘quarantine’, why? Why only Xojo when I upgrade other programs to a new version? Has it Covid? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Winter](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/markus_winter/32/144_2.png) [@Markus\_Winter](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Markus_Winter)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/4 "2020-11-24T17:14:01Z")
> [@Peter\_Kronenberg](#): > > Has it Covid? Yes. As a close contact you should now self-isolate for 14 days. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/peter_kronenberg/32/2891_2.png) [@Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Peter_Kronenberg)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/5 "2020-11-25T00:04:54Z")
Sooo… Markus, Gary and Scott - you have the same problem but spreading it around? Please write down at least some constructive responses as well. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Winter](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/markus_winter/32/144_2.png) [@Markus\_Winter](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Markus_Winter)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 1:02am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/6 "2020-11-25T01:02:13Z")
Christian gave you the probable solution - have you tried it??? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/peter_kronenberg/32/2891_2.png) [@Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Peter_Kronenberg)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/7 "2020-11-25T02:25:47Z")
Yes, no joy. This would be a circumvention, not a solution, however. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/peter_kronenberg/32/2891_2.png) [@Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Peter_Kronenberg)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/8 "2020-11-25T03:05:44Z")
Here the console log; anything supicious why the plugins are ignored? Nov 25 04:04:18 PKiMac com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: Coalition Cache Hit: app\ [832] Nov 25 04:04:22 PKiMac Xojo[4362]: objc[4362]: Class XOJSegmentedControl is implemented in both /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Frameworks/GUIKitCocoa.dylib (0x11ceabf28) and /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Resources/Internal Plugins/RBGUIKit.xojo\_plugin/RBGUIKit/Build Resources/Mac Universal/GUIKitCocoa.dylib (0x124bb6f28). One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined. Nov 25 04:04:22 PKiMac Xojo[4362]: objc[4362]: Class XOJGUIKit\_ActionTarget is implemented in both /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Frameworks/GUIKitCocoa.dylib (0x11ceabfa0) and /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Resources/Internal Plugins/RBGUIKit.xojo\_plugin/RBGUIKit/Build Resources/Mac Universal/GUIKitCocoa.dylib (0x124bb6fa0). One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined. Nov 25 04:04:22 PKiMac Xojo[4362]: objc[4362]: Class XOJWebKitDelegate is implemented in both /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Frameworks/HTMLViewerCocoa.dylib (0x11ced11f8) and /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Resources/Internal Plugins/RBHTMLViewer.xojo\_plugin/RBHTMLViewer/Build Resources/Mac Universal/HTMLViewerCocoa.dylib (0x1250a21f8). One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined. Nov 25 04:04:22 PKiMac Xojo[4362]: objc[4362]: Class XOJBevelButton is implemented in both /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Frameworks/AppearancePakCocoa.dylib (0x11ce1bb50) and /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Resources/Internal Plugins/RBAppearancePak.xojo\_plugin/RBAppearancePak/Build Resources/Mac Universal/AppearancePakCocoa.dylib (0x1250fab50). One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined. Nov 25 04:04:22 PKiMac Xojo[4362]: objc[4362]: Class XOJImageWell is implemented in both /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Frameworks/AppearancePakCocoa.dylib (0x11ce1bba0) and /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Resources/Internal Plugins/RBAppearancePak.xojo\_plugin/RBAppearancePak/Build Resources/Mac Universal/AppearancePakCocoa.dylib (0x1250faba0). One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined. Nov 25 04:04:22 PKiMac Xojo[4362]: objc[4362]: Class XOJChasingArrows is implemented in both /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Frameworks/AppearancePakCocoa.dylib (0x11ce1bbf0) and /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Resources/Internal Plugins/RBAppearancePak.xojo\_plugin/RBAppearancePak/Build Resources/Mac Universal/AppearancePakCocoa.dylib (0x1250fabf0). One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined. Nov 25 04:04:22 PKiMac Xojo[4362]: objc[4362]: Class XOJDisclosureTriangle is implemented in both /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Frameworks/AppearancePakCocoa.dylib (0x11ce1bc40) and /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Resources/Internal Plugins/RBAppearancePak.xojo\_plugin/RBAppearancePak/Build Resources/Mac Universal/AppearancePakCocoa.dylib (0x1250fac40). One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined. Nov 25 04:04:22 PKiMac Xojo[4362]: objc[4362]: Class XOJLittleArrows is implemented in both /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Frameworks/AppearancePakCocoa.dylib (0x11ce1bc90) and /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Resources/Internal Plugins/RBAppearancePak.xojo\_plugin/RBAppearancePak/Build Resources/Mac Universal/AppearancePakCocoa.dylib (0x1250fac90). One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined. Nov 25 04:04:22 PKiMac Xojo[4362]: objc[4362]: Class XOJSeparator is implemented in both /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Frameworks/AppearancePakCocoa.dylib (0x11ce1bce0) and /private/var/folders/fn/2z\_9hyl94\_96jj6ffj83mxvw0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/B4BBFE0D-C760-47EF-9C33-DE93FB36E76A/d/Xojo.app/Contents/Resources/Internal Plugins/RBAppearancePak.xojo\_plugin/RBAppearancePak/Build Resources/Mac Universal/AppearancePakCocoa.dylib (0x1250face0). One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined. ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Schmitz](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/christian_schmitz/32/158_2.png) [@Christian\_Schmitz](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Christian_Schmitz)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 6:19am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/9 "2020-11-25T06:19:13Z")
AppTranslocation. The app got translocated to prevent some possible hacks. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/peter_kronenberg/32/2891_2.png) [@Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Peter_Kronenberg)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 7:33am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/10 "2020-11-25T07:33:37Z")
But: Xojo works, it just ignores the plugins; even the non-MBS plugins! Why? What’s the reason in the first place for that new ‘AppTranslocation’ behaviour (maybe)? Why are no other users reporting this nuisance? I don’t use an anti-virus program. Don’t think it’s Little Snitch. Are there any macOS security settings Xojo / MBS suggest not to use (during Xojo start-up, a small window of the macOS security preference appears, scanning it)? ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Schmitz](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/christian_schmitz/32/158_2.png) [@Christian\_Schmitz](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Christian_Schmitz)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/11 "2020-11-25T07:34:22Z")
macOS didn’t remove the quarantine flag from the download. It’s a bug as it should be removed. But as long as Xojo is quarantined, it can’t find the plugins. ---
**Author:** ![DerkJ](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DerkJ](https://forum.xojo.com/u/DerkJ)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 7:41am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/12 "2020-11-25T07:41:58Z")
Is your xojo in the /Applications folder? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/peter_kronenberg/32/2891_2.png) [@Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Peter_Kronenberg)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 8:37am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/13 "2020-11-25T08:37:41Z")
Of course. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/peter_kronenberg/32/2891_2.png) [@Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Peter_Kronenberg)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 8:37am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/14 "2020-11-25T08:37:59Z")
![Screenshot 2020-11-25 at 09.37.34](https://forum.xojo.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6bbd299f4fe65f811977488c52892fd85350c1c3.png) ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Schmitz](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/christian_schmitz/32/158_2.png) [@Christian\_Schmitz](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Christian_Schmitz)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 8:40am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/15 "2020-11-25T08:40:35Z")
But Finder didn’t remove quarantine on copying. So use xattr -cr in Terminal. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Rowlands](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/sam_rowlands/32/265_2.png) [@Sam\_Rowlands](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Sam_Rowlands)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 10:22am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/16 "2020-11-25T10:22:08Z")
This is a security mechanism on the macOS. When files are downloaded from the internet they have a Quarantine attribute set on them. For Applications this means they get checked by Apple’s GateKeeper and other various Apple “Security” processes. One the application has been approved for use by your copy of the macOS (via talking to the mothership and satellite services) and you have moved it into the “/Applications” folder (on your boot drive), the macOS is meant to strip this attribute. Your log data clearly indicates the presence of the Quarantine attribute. The fact that the “Applications” folder in your screen shot has the designated icon, suggests that it’s in the correct folder. Therefore I would advise using Apple’s Feedback (not The Xojo one) to report this as a bug in Big Sur, because that’s what I think you’ve found. In the meantime, the terminal command that Christian has provided you will manually remove the Quarantine attribute from the installed copy of Xojo, which will remove the additional security. It’s best if you close Xojo while this attribute is stripped to reduce file locking from stopping it. It that doesn’t work, try rebooting your Mac, it solves most problems now a days, including the new one that’s gaining momentum with BS, the inability for applications to save files until they’re restarted. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_D](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/mike_d/32/266_2.png) [@Mike\_D](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Mike_D)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/17 "2020-11-25T14:29:47Z")
I believe you can trigger this accidentally if you skip the **validation** step when you open the DMG. Any chance you did that by mistake? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/peter_kronenberg/32/2891_2.png) [@Peter\_Kronenberg](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Peter_Kronenberg)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/18 "2020-11-25T18:58:15Z")
OK, thanks. So I tried again xattr in Terminal, and it worked! Will leave it this way… ---
**Author:** ![Stéphane\_Dumont](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Stéphane\_Dumont](https://forum.xojo.com/u/St%C3%A9phane_Dumont)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 9:33am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/19 "2020-12-26T09:33:25Z")
Hi everybody. Back to amateur (occasional) dev., using macOS 10.14.6. I Could not have my new MBS plugins (20.5) be loaded by my new Xojo version (2020 r2.1) despite having copied the new MBS plugins into the Plugins folder of the new Xojo folder. It appears in Xojo that no plugin has been loaded : I guess its is macOS quarantine. As I am not at all familiar with Terminal, GateKeeper, SIP, etc., please help me by indicating a complete and detailed procedure to overcome the problem in order to make the plugins load. Thank you. Stephane ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Schmitz](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/christian_schmitz/32/158_2.png) [@Christian\_Schmitz](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Christian_Schmitz)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 10:02am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135/20 "2020-12-26T10:02:10Z")
Launch Terminal type "xattr -cr " without quotes, but with space on the end. Drop Xojo app on the terminal window to add the path. In terminal press return to run command. Then restart Xojo by double clicking it. [Next page](https://forum.xojo.com/t/plugins-not-loading-after-switch-to-new-xojo-release/59135.md?page=2)