They removed QuickTime support from 2014r1 because the Mac App Store is no longer accepting apps that use deprecated QuickTime APIs. The solution here is to continue to develop those apps of yours with 2013r4.
Sure, but you guys donât usually strip stuff thatâs just deprecated. Leaving it in was a problem for MAS acceptance, which is very important to many here. That was my point.
I donât really see why it had to be removed. Wouldnât a simple option to exclude QT on build been enough? One could still have had editableMovies, made and sold the apps, just not on MAS. And for apps intended for MAS you check the option.
Ok, I understand.
Does this mean, Apple is dropping Quicktime completely?
Or will there be a replacement in the future.
I know the answer is difficult because Apple never say what they are doing nextâŠ
For Xojo its a no-win situation; if they leave QT then they get complaints about it not working in the Mac latest-greatest (or as Norman said Win), if they take it out (read above).
Personally I wish Xojo was more both/and than either/or, but least thereâs something the user can do about it, which is run multiple versions of REAL/Xojo and understand âwhat was the last version that supported âthisââ.
And remember that updating isnât the no-brainer we tend to think of it as. UWC - Update With Care.
What Xojo has (so far) done really well for us is enable forward and backward-compatibility with projects. There are many companies that make files that donât run on older versions - for good reasons, but then one can say they were too lazy to afford the flexibility for the user. Because Xojo has kept pure with this, it enable them to leave behind legacy technologies, but us users have to take responsibility that if we want them, we have to run older REAL/Xojo versions, which is okay since often that doesnât trip most things up.
And for the OP, it gives you time to upgrade to the AVFoundation stuff.
And off-topic - I was just thinking how long itâs been since Xojo has really released something significant (aside from the IDE, which may or may not count). Canât wait for: 64-bit support, iOS support, better Windows support. And my personal little wish: a release that says âExecutables now run up to 50% fasterâŠâ =)
Last release correct some bugs and improve Xojo. Maintaining app with older release is stupid.
The best thing seems to define how to replace EditableMovie and others features. I think there is plugins who allo to do the same job than EditableMovie.
Give us a way !
we donât have time to loose with theses stupid regression !
i donât understand why Xojo donât add compatibility functions in AVFundation before deprecating QT
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You could certainly implore Apple to NOT deprecate & eventually remove Quicktime or QTKit from OS X (but thats probably fruitless).
Maybe ask them to allow apps that use QuickTime & QTKit in MAS.
And to support Quicktime on Windows too.
The trouble for us is we have a lot of users who do submit applications to MAS and they cannot use QTKit or Quicktime.
Maintaining two Cocoa frameworks (one that includes quite & QTKit) and one that doesnât simply isnât practical.
AVKit is the future of media handling on OS X
QuickTime for Windows seems to be dead (you donât even need it for iTunes on Windows any more)
It didnât / doesnât leave us with many choices but to move to AVFoundation.
And you can still build for Carbon - but with Cocoa AVFoundation is the right choice long term
It is deprecated, not removed. QT works just fine in Mavericks.
[quote]Maybe ask them to allow apps that use QuickTime & QTKit in MAS.
And to support Quicktime on Windows too.[/quote]
QT for Windows was updated just a few weeks ago and continues to work fine.
[quote]The trouble for us is we have a lot of users who do submit applications to MAS and they cannot use QTKit or Quicktime.
Maintaining two Cocoa frameworks (one that includes quite & QTKit) and one that doesnât simply isnât practical.[/quote]
Isnât that what an intelligent linker is for? Or could you not have put the QT functionality into a plugin? Or you could even have put out two Xojo versions until AV Foundation can actually do more.
[quote]AVKit is the future of media handling on OS X
QuickTime for Windows seems to be dead (you donât even need it for iTunes on Windows any more)
It didnât / doesnât leave us with many choices but to move to AVFoundation.[/quote]
I donât agree. There are other possibilities but you decided to remove, not deprecate QT. And by that you removed OUR choice. Using QT or not aka selling on MAS or not should have been a build setting.
Iâm annoyed because now we have an IDE we didnât need but instead have lost functionality that I do need. From where I stand Xojo hasnât made smart decisions lately.