# MacOS Monterey beta 12 and Xojo **URL:** \ **Category:** macOS\ **Created:** [October 7, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986 "2021-10-07T20:58:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/craig_grech/32/1499_2.png) [@Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Craig_Grech)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/1 "2021-10-07T20:58:47Z")
Upgraded from MacOS Monterey beta 11 to beta 12 and Xojo won’t quit (freezes on closing) and neither will my apps without a crash report - insufficient resources. Just an observation, this is not my development platform, but I like to prepare early before each new OS. A worry if they don’t fix it before final release. It’s been good until this beta release. ---
**Author:** ![Björn\_Eiríksson](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/da6949/32.png) [@Björn\_Eiríksson](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Bj%C3%B6rn_Eir%C3%ADksson)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/2 "2021-10-07T21:06:46Z")
Low memory or disk ? ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_O\_Lone](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/greg_o_lone/32/49_2.png) [@Greg\_O\_Lone](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Greg_O_Lone)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/3 "2021-10-07T22:11:04Z")
Please file a bug report about this. ---
**Author:** ![Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/craig_grech/32/1499_2.png) [@Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Craig_Grech)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 7:21am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/4 "2021-10-08T07:21:33Z")
Thanks, I have already sent an error report through Feedback Assistant. Plenty of disk space and 16gb RAM so I don’t understand why this is happening. ---
**Author:** ![ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/u/ChristopheDV)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 9:10am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/5 "2021-10-08T09:10:15Z")
FWW there is no beta 12 for Montery. The latest developer build is beta 9 And I do not see the crash here running beta 9 ---
**Author:** ![Emile\_Schwarz](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/90ced4/32.png) [@Emile\_Schwarz](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Emile_Schwarz)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 9:19am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/6 "2021-10-08T09:19:22Z")
I think Craig means from “ macOS 11 Big Sur” to “macOS 12 Monterey” 😉 > **[Apple Releases New macOS 12 Monterey Public Beta](https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/07/apple-releases-new-monterey-public-beta-9/)** > > Apple today seeded a new public beta of the macOS 12 Monterey beta to public beta testers, allowing non-developers to test the new macOS Monterey... ---
**Author:** ![ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/u/ChristopheDV)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 9:30am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/7 "2021-10-08T09:30:09Z")
> [@Craig\_Grech](#): > > MacOS Monterey beta 11 to beta 12 Probably but it was confusing because he wrote ‘MacOS Monterey beta 11 to beta 12’. 🙂 Nevertheless: I do not see this crashing with Xojo UI or Xojo compiled apps here. ---
**Author:** ![Emile\_Schwarz](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/90ced4/32.png) [@Emile\_Schwarz](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Emile_Schwarz)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 9:38am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/8 "2021-10-08T09:38:23Z")
Yes, confusing. ---
**Author:** ![Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/craig_grech/32/1499_2.png) [@Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Craig_Grech)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 9:39am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/9 "2021-10-08T09:39:22Z")
Sorry for my version error it’s Build 21A5543b. I should have also added it’s Mac M1. Quit Xojo and it closes but still appears active in the Dock. Force Quit to get crash report. If it’s not happening on your machine don’t worry about it. It must be something at my end but I haven’t changed anything with Xojo just run the Mac update last night and instantly couldn’t close Xojo. ---
**Author:** ![Emile\_Schwarz](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/90ced4/32.png) [@Emile\_Schwarz](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Emile_Schwarz)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 9:41am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/10 "2021-10-08T09:41:37Z")
It was in Big Sur, but I get some troubles with macOS and M1 recently: Get Info, Click in Icon, Copy does not worked. Shutdown. Boot and it worked again. ---
**Author:** ![ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@ChristopheDV](https://forum.xojo.com/u/ChristopheDV)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 9:47am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/11 "2021-10-08T09:47:14Z")
No issues here on my MBP Intel and MBP M1 ---
**Author:** ![David\_Cox](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/david_cox/32/227_2.png) [@David\_Cox](https://forum.xojo.com/u/David_Cox)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 9:51am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/12 "2021-10-08T09:51:15Z")
I have been running Monterey on an Intel iMac for a month or so and have not seen this behaviour. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_O\_Lone](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/greg_o_lone/32/49_2.png) [@Greg\_O\_Lone](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Greg_O_Lone)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/13 "2021-10-08T14:07:24Z")
> [@Craig\_Grech](#): > > Upgraded from MacOS Monterey beta 11 to beta 12 Could you check those beta numbers? I’m looking at Apple’s website and the latest is Beta 9. ---
**Author:** ![Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/craig_grech/32/1499_2.png) [@Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Craig_Grech)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/14 "2021-10-08T15:45:26Z")
> [@David\_Cox](#): > > I have been running Monterey on an Intel iMac for a month or so and have not seen this behaviour. Have you installed the latest update that came out a few days ago? I didn’t have any problems until now. ---
**Author:** ![Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/craig_grech/32/1499_2.png) [@Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Craig_Grech)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/15 "2021-10-08T15:57:50Z")
When I close Xojo the project closes but the Xojo menu bar remains. I cannot click on any items in the menu including the Apple menu. Right click the Dock icon to Force Quit. Part of crash report refers to hang event - Command: Xojo Path: /Applications/Xojo 2021 Release 2.1/Xojo.app/Contents/MacOS/Xojo Identifier: com.xojo.xojo Version: 21.2.1.53890 (21.2.1.3.53890) Team ID: 6MG2NQJ3FZ Architecture: arm64 Parent: launchd [1] PID: 1029 Time Since Fork: 71s Event: hang Duration: 40.38s Duration Sampled: 1.10s (process was unresponsive for 39 seconds before sampling) Steps: 11 (100ms sampling interval) ---
**Author:** ![Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/craig_grech/32/1499_2.png) [@Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Craig_Grech)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/16 "2021-10-08T16:02:32Z")
> [@Greg\_O\_Lone](#): > > Could you check those beta numbers? I’m looking at Apple’s website and the latest is Beta 9. I’m referring to the last beta update this week. Sorry I got the version number mixed up with the OS number (see above). ---
**Author:** ![David\_Cox](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/david_cox/32/227_2.png) [@David\_Cox](https://forum.xojo.com/u/David_Cox)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/17 "2021-10-08T16:25:36Z")
I upgraded Monterey to beta 9 today and yes, I have had both my debug apps and non-Xojo commercial apps give a crash error when quitting. ---
**Author:** ![Beatrix\_Willius](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/beatrix_willius/32/282_2.png) [@Beatrix\_Willius](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Beatrix_Willius)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/18 "2021-10-08T17:01:36Z")
Can you post the relevant section of the crash log? ---
**Author:** ![Jürg\_Otter](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/j%C3%BCrg_otter/32/584_2.png) [@Jürg\_Otter](https://forum.xojo.com/u/J%C3%BCrg_Otter)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/19 "2021-10-08T17:08:50Z")
> [@David\_Cox](#): > > and non-Xojo commercial apps give a crash error when quitting That’s good news - kind of 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/craig_grech/32/1499_2.png) [@Craig\_Grech](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Craig_Grech)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986/20 "2021-10-08T18:52:44Z")
Yes Firefox produces a crash report on closing sometimes as well as Xojo and Xojo apps. I’m glad someone else is experiencing the same thing. Maybe Apple will notice and fix it themselves if popular apps are going down too. [Next page](https://forum.xojo.com/t/macos-monterey-beta-12-and-xojo/65986.md?page=2)