I came across this tool. Is anyone using it? What’s the experience?
Is Delphi still alive? I thought it was dead after Borland.
From what I heard it is awesome. Xojo is more cross platform when it comes to desktop support. I don’t think Delphi supports Linux. Give it a try!
I have stuck with Xojo because I know it is awesome. I know how to use it. Why go elsewhere?
Delphi is still alive.
I think it is kind of unfair to post this question on Xojo forum.
I tried their product… it wasn’t bad. What was bad, is I got calls from them about every other day pressuring me into buying their products after my trial expired (which I didn’t buy, because it wasn’t what I was looking for). They wouldn’t take no for an answer, and even tried to pitch me other software that would be beneficial to my companies ‘network’. Wha!? Nope nope nope…
If you gave them your number, get ready… it’s comin’. I guarantee it…
What was it about Delphi that didn’t suite you?
Thanks Oliver.
For me it’s not an option as I don’t know how to programmg in delphi. Xojo is my best choice.
Eric, I see the point you’re making. They can be irritating. I has such experience with other products like bank accounts, etc and it’s a good reason to stay away
I’ve given it a spin over the years
When it first hit the market it was pretty nice
Now that it spun off to Embarcadero I’ve tried it probably once a year
Never managed to get it to install without troubles - and when I did get it to install it I could not even get one of their template projects to load & run. Their sales folks would email & I would mention this & never got any follow up.
So it quite literally has never been useful for me to eve look at.
I was a Delphi nut until I needed cross-platform. I have an XE license. They’re more into marketing and other crud now, and seem to be on a quick release cycle. Their PRO package upgrade keeps creeping up in price, they need a bucket of cash for mobile upgrades and when I demo’d XE3 a while ago, as Eric pointed out, I was chased by their sales team for a while.
Also, some Client/Server stuff with databases can’t be done in the Pro version. If you look at their forums, they seem to annoy their fanbase more and more each upgrade for some reason or other. I still maintain some small software utils so I keep my XE available. Unless there is a developmental surprise, I’m done with them.
We use it at work for developing our apps for Windows, Mac and Mobile devices (IOS & Android). If I could afford a license at home I would get it in a heart beat.
i use XE3 at work a little, but I doubt I’ll be upgrading to XE6 anytime soon. I’ve never had any problems with the sales folks bothering me. It is an expensive product though.
[quote=95034:@Norman Palardy]I’ve given it a spin over the years
When it first hit the market it was pretty nice
Now that it spun off to Embarcadero I’ve tried it probably once a year
Never managed to get it to install without troubles - and when I did get it to install it I could not even get one of their template projects to load & run. Their sales folks would email & I would mention this & never got any follow up.
So it quite literally has never been useful for me to eve look at.[/quote]
This was EXACTLY my experience too.
Former long time user. Still have one of my Borland shirts from the golden years. Marvelous high quality tool costing $99. Reached almost 1.8 million users and 20 years later declined to 250,000 in constant turnover and full of former users, many haters. What happened? Don’t know but some says bad decisions since they hired a “genius” CEO that raised the value from $99 to more than $1500 and destroyed the vast user base and crashed small companies together. Since then, Delphi never more was the the same. Seems they now just focus more on sales than quality. People buy once, have problems, don’t solve, they ask you to pay again for a promised fixed future version. People go away looking for other tools and most don’t return. The love for the language + those problems, caused the community to start their own version maintained in their free time. Nowadays it’s becoming old, lacking of many new features, and have not enough speed of evolution needed to stick around.
Rick…I sense a feeling of nostalgia
I have souvenirs and enough age. 
I used Delphi from when it was Borland Pascal for Windows through to about Delphi 5 or 6 (not to mention Borland Pascal for DOS before that). For Windows software development it was incredible. However, after Apple released Mac OS X and spiffy new PowerBooks and I discovered REALbasic (V2?), I could write Windows software on my beloved Mac, so I dumped Delphi. However, I retain a great sense of nostalgia for Delphi, albeit modern Xojo is a better (sic) and more modern programming language. Delphi’s widgets and third-party add-ons were much better than Xojo’s have ever been.
I’ve been a user since Turbo Pascal 3 - show’s my age! I’m currently on XE2 and do plan on upgrading to XE6. Like several people have stated before, it can be expensive if you upgrade at every new release. I love Xojo for Mac development but the VCL in Delphi is so mature that for me Delphi makes Windows development so much easier. AND I’ve got to throw in that for reporting purposes Fast-Report or ReportBuilder are also mature and easy to use products. If a Xojo reporting tool could be developed that worked like either of those then Xojo could really become a first class dev tool to rival anything out there.
I use Delphi a lot in the day job v7
Tried to move to Embarcadero as I needed cross-platform and serial support
XE6 has both, but not at the same time !
Xojo does and it works
Just wish the IDE was faster and more mature
I spend too long calculating where to our components on the screen
With Delphi, child components have their position relative to the parent, not absolute like Xojo
:sigh:
I don’t follow Dephi, whatever happened to their excursion into Mac territory? I looked at them 4 years ago and decided to go with Xojo. I think it was called Fire Monkey or something like that when I was looking at cross platform tools?
The price alone is prohibitive to me. (the starter edition at 250 doesn’t count, since it’s not cross platform). It used to be affordable for the hobby programmer, but not anymore. They also don’t have any real options for that group of people, which is sad because they used to have a whole community of hobby programmers using them.
Xojo has price settings that are affordable for the hobby programmer, and has options for the pros.
We chose Xojo (when it was still Realbasic) and haven’t looked back since.
[quote]With Delphi, child components have their position relative to the parent, not absolute like Xojo
:sigh:[/quote]
Totally the thing I loved most about Delphi.
You could create effortlessly responsive dialogs.
The generated code was pretty nippy too, but how I miss being able to add groups and buttons which realigned themselves this flexibly.