crash when save or save as new project

hi,

under osx, i can’t save new projet. xojo crash
i think is maybe right permission but i don’t know to repair that.
i have open an exising project and modify it to can save
any one know what can i do ?
xojo 2015 release 3.1

insert a usb drive.
Save to that.
Then use disk utility and repair permissions?

[quote=254412:@jean-marc planas]hi,

under osx, i can’t save new projet. xojo crash
i think is maybe right permission but i don’t know to repair that.
i have open an exising project and modify it to can save
any one know what can i do ?
xojo 2015 release 3.1[/quote]

Check the permissions for the project. Select the file, then Cmd-I or menu File/Get Info. Sharing & Permission at the bottom of the dialog. If it says “Read only,” change to “Read & Write”.

Also, try to save as in Documents.

I can’t check permission of the project because it is not created,
Xojo crash before opensavedialog is open
I can’t select drive
Xojo crash with save and save as… Command
I have always open an existing project so, i make copy of a project and i open it and delete all in tjis project to reate mine.
I had try last xojo version but this version don’t open. No start…strange because win version run well

Your Xojo may be corrupt.
Download a fresh copy from the website, the current version is 2015r4.1

I did it 4 time for osx
Don’t start

Another way to check:

add a new user into your unknow OS,
download and install Xojo there,
run it, create a new project and try to save it.

If it save, that may say your unknow OS is corrupted.
If it crash, your hard disk may be corrupted.

Other solutions / answers may exists, but I need another cup of coffee to thit at what they can be ;-:slight_smile:

Where is Xojo exactly installed and where do you save your Project File, please?

Sascha, xojo is in application folder of course. I can’t try save project, xojo crash on click save if projet is new. It only save if project was there before.
If i copy project file and rename it, i can open and sAve it. But never if projet is new by new option project in xojo

Sascha, if your question is about last version of xojo. Then this version don’t start on osx.
I see icon up down some few second in task bar then…nothing.
My problem to saving project is for 3.1 version
Thanks

Have you done the usual troubleshooting methods:

Restart your computer.
Reinstall Xojo after removing all files.
Remove all plugins.
Try with another user.
Run Disk First aid.
Try with another computer.

This all really sounds like a broken Xojo installation.
Can you re-download and re-install it?

Beatrix, Sasha:

I already cover your advices.

Jean-Marc: sorry, when I read, re-read your original post I do not saw you stated OS X.

To add a new user, go to the System Preferences (Prfrences Systme), click in Users and Group (Utilisateurs et groupes) and add a new user there.
Click in the locker to open it,
click in the + sign above the Locker,
Set a name, etc.

Then, download your 3.1 version (or another since it does matter for the test),
Copy the Xojo folder in the Application folder icon (in the DMG),
Run Xojo,
New Project, add an object to Window1,
Save

Ask if youre still in trouble.

Thanks i will try …

I’ve been having the same problems and after some testing there is what I found.

After playing with plugins, is seems to be a memory problem.

What I have loaded is 71 plugins. The 5 Database plugins that come with Xojo. and the 66 MBS Plugins.

It doesn’t matter how many plugins are being used, but if you remove plugins that equal to around 14,370 (this size is chosen because that is the size of the MBS Xojo SQL Plugin)

How I came this?

First: After removing plugins MBS Xojo XL Plugin, MBS Xojo XMP and MBS Xojo WINIcm Plugins then restarting XOJO, the problem went away and I was able to go to “SAVE AS”.

Second: After putting those 3 plugins back and removing MBS Xojo MacOSX, MBS Xojo MacOSXCF, and MBS Xojo MacOSXCG, Plugins and restarting XOJO, I was still able to go “SAVE AS”.

Third: Returning all plugins and restarting XOJO, the problem returned.

Forth: Removing MBS Xojo SQL Plugin and the problem went away again.

The 2 computers I’m running have Windows 10. 1 Current Version and 1 Fast Ring version (Anniversary Release Beta), and both are 64 Bit with 16 GB of ram.

Do you seriously need all the MBS plugins at the same time ?

I’m still fairly new to Xojo, so I put all the MBS plugins in and experiment with their functionality. Don’t like spending time moving plugins in and out of folders just because I’m not going to use them for a specific code test. Call me lazy that way.

What you experience is due to Windows DLL limit. There is no way around it.

Sure, it looks convenient to keep all plugins, but the proper way to go is to use the few that are needed for a particular project.

In this exploratory phase, maybe what you could do is to remove the plugins you are pretty sure you will not need anymore.

User “Robin Lauryssen-Mitchell” has updated case #44655.

The following comments were left:

»»Status changed from ‘Closed (Misc)’ to ‘Verified’.
»»Report reopened.

This behavior changed somewhere between Xojo2015r2.4 (SaveAs works) and Xojo2015r3.1 (SaveAs does not work).
Only tested with Windows10 and MBS164pr1.

Just FYI that “verified” may not be “fixable” - this may be an OS limitation that we have no ability or API to alter
If you are running into the DLL limit you may be able to

  1. use fewer plugins
  2. ask the plugin dev if they are using dynamically linked C++ runtime (which I’m sure most are) as this also plays into how many DLL’s can be loaded (see https://forum.xojo.com/33582-the-max-dll-issue-on-windows)
  3. wait for a 64 bit IDE that, if I understand correctly, alters this limit

#1 you can do today
#2 you can do today & ask the plugin developer
#3 you wait until we ship a 64 bit IDE