# Built in Menu **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [March 11, 2025, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/built-in-menu/84539 "2025-03-11T02:35:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Barry\_Sidebottom](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Barry\_Sidebottom](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Barry_Sidebottom)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/built-in-menu/84539/1 "2025-03-11T02:35:59Z")
Hi All, Something that has often bugged me. In the MacOS menubar, if you want to have an “Edit” option then there appears to be 4 Apple options that I can’t find any way to get rid of. They are: Writing Tools Autofill Start Dictation Emoji & Symbols. Same thing happens with “File” menu but I’ve found references to them that I can delete which will get rid of them, but not so for the 4 on “Edit”. Are we permanently stuck with them, or is there a way to get rid of them? Thanks, Barry ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Williams](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Eric\_Williams](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Eric_Williams)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 6:33am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/built-in-menu/84539/2 "2025-03-11T06:33:51Z")
You could probably use a Declare to banish them, but why would you? They’re present in almost every Mac application and users get accustomed to them being available. ---
**Author:** ![Jean-Yves\_Pochez](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/jean-yves_pochez/32/21769_2.png) [@Jean-Yves\_Pochez](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Jean-Yves_Pochez)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 7:19am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/built-in-menu/84539/3 "2025-03-11T07:19:59Z")
try to name the menu like "Edit " with a space after. or some invisible char. ---
**Author:** ![Barry\_Sidebottom](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Barry\_Sidebottom](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Barry_Sidebottom)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 7:36am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/built-in-menu/84539/4 "2025-03-11T07:36:52Z")
Hi Eric, Thanks for the reply. You’re prob right except I’m just a hobbiest and my apps are for my use only. The other reason tho, is just that it bugs me and I’m curious where it comes from and if there is a way to stop it. Just an exercise for me. I’ve learnt so much from you guys by posting my (probably annoying) questions. Eg., when you say use a “Declare”, that’s a word I’ve seen but have never used it, so wouldn’t know how to in the context you’ve suggested. Barry ---
**Author:** ![Barry\_Sidebottom](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Barry\_Sidebottom](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Barry_Sidebottom)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 7:38am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/built-in-menu/84539/5 "2025-03-11T07:38:07Z")
Hi Jean-Yves, Yes, you’re probably right but, as I said in the previous reply, that doesn’t give me the answer to where these things are lerking. Barry ---
**Author:** ![Beatrix\_Willius](https://forum.xojo.com/user_avatar/forum.xojo.com/beatrix_willius/32/282_2.png) [@Beatrix\_Willius](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Beatrix_Willius)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 7:46am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/built-in-menu/84539/6 "2025-03-11T07:46:09Z")
> [@Barry\_Sidebottom](#): > > where these things are lerking. The menus are lurking in macOS. ---
**Author:** ![Barry\_Sidebottom](https://forum.xojo.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Barry\_Sidebottom](https://forum.xojo.com/u/Barry_Sidebottom)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 7:59am UTC](https://forum.xojo.com/t/built-in-menu/84539/7 "2025-03-11T07:59:30Z")
Hi Beatrix, Thanks, yes I suspected that might be where they live ☹ Barry