Apple presentation

it is VERY clear OSX has a long standing future ahead. People who though tables (iOS) will be the future, think again. :slight_smile: Tim was very clear about this at the end of the presentation.

BTW and now I am going to order the 5K iMac :slight_smile: Thrilled about this.

I guess I won’t be able to install Yosemite until tomorrow morning or something :slight_smile:
I’ve got an iMac Late 2009 that would be nice to upgrade. Chris, buy me one!? :wink:

it would be nice if Apple could create an thunderbolt 5K display as external display for my Macbook Pro… since I have it I won’t use a crappy 24" external display anymore :frowning:

What is most clear from Tim’s conclusion is that iOS and Mac OS X are part of an ecosystem of devices where each one plays a part in a user’s life.

It is also clear that Apple is primarily a hardware company that produces its own software.

Quite different from Microsoft which is a software company that acquired Nokia but does not produce desktop computers. Hence the major Windows 8 blunder where they confused phones and desktop.

Indeed Apple’s logic of having tablets and phones under iOS, and laptops and desktop under Mac OS X is probably the best way to have the most sensible interface for each line of products.

part of Nokia …
Nokia still has a lot of other businesses like, oddly enough, a pretty darned decent mapping information set up :slight_smile:

Forgotten to add here:
Today I went to the local App store and I played with the iMac K5

The screen is wonderful. Really, you have to see this to believe how beautiful it is.
But … yep there is always a but … the Intel HD5000 isn’t cooping with it. All GUI animations, dragging window around is jerky as hell. Very low GUI fps.
So basically for me this means waiting for the next GPU upgrade before buying this. :slight_smile:

I’m going to try and check it out this weekend.

But the specs for the retina iMac says its GPU is an “AMD Radeon R9 M290X graphics processor with 2GB of GDDR5 memory”, not an Intel HD5000.

The mini uses the Intel 5000 graphics - not the iMac

[quote=135887:@Christoph De Vocht]The screen is wonderful. Really, you have to see this to believe how beautiful it is.
But … yep there is always a but … the Intel HD5000 isn’t cooping with it. All GUI animations, dragging window around is jerky as hell. Very low GUI fps.
So basically for me this means waiting for the next GPU upgrade before buying this. :-)[/quote]

There must be a response time limit commanded by the speed and addressing capabilities of the screen memory bus, as well as the GPU itself. A GPU conceived for such a screen may need to be multicore or something to be as smooth as current technology.

Not to mention electricity consumption and heat dissipation…

[quote=135747:@Norman Palardy]part of Nokia …
Nokia still has a lot of other businesses like, oddly enough, a pretty darned decent mapping information set up :)[/quote]True.

Nokia Networks just won a $970 million contract to upgrade China Mobile’s infrastructure.

As well as providing maps for sat-navs, mobile phones and web services Nokia’s HERE division is working with Mercedes-Benz creating specialised 3D maps for self-driving cars.

Nokia’s ‘Advanced Technologies’ division is collaborating with the Cambridge Nanoscience Centre (in my home town) on the fascinating Morph concept.

Nokia currently have quite a few vacancies for engineers in Sunnyvale.

Anybody with a recent Android smartphone might be interested in trying Nokia’s Z Launcher.

And on top of all that Nokia still have a stellar patent portfolio.

Apple should have just bought Nokias mapping division for Apple maps

I’m sure if Nokia had been prepared to sell Navteq/Here Microsoft would have bought that along with the devices division, as it is they just have a license to use Nokia’s maps and I don’t doubt Nokia would cut a similar deal with Apple too.

Dunno that MS would actually have wanted it or that it was for sale
MS really wanted a way to make their own devices & Nokias devices business had fallen from their lofty perch of a few years back so was relatively cheap to acquire
Not that MS is doing a flourishing business in the phone sector but building their own devices gives them more ability to mimic apples vertical integration than they had before

Apple however could really have used that division to make Maps
Maps has come a long way since its initial release but still has holes in its data

MS + Nokia phones = Apple’s vertical integration (iPhone)
MS + Zune = Apple’s vertical integration (iPod)

We see how that’s working out for them :wink:

I did say “mimic” but there are always bugs in the execution :stuck_out_tongue:

Microsoft attempts to create a positive user experience with their RT software has been so far a failure. The Surface in RT mode has few users. It seems the only positive welcome is for the Surface Pro which is in effect a small laptop PC.

Phones have somewhat picked up in Europe with a market share reported around 13%. But it could be the result of the massive Nokia brand recognition and customer base renewing their devices.

Now the irony is that Microsoft is in such despair to popularize its Windows for phones, it is giving it away for free to phone builders…

If this is the case, the dedicated GPU isn’t cooping with K5 either.

[quote=136005:@Norman Palardy]Dunno that MS would actually have wanted it or that it was for sale
MS really wanted a way to make their own devices & Nokias devices business had fallen from their lofty perch of a few years back so was relatively cheap to acquire[/quote]There’s just been a book released about Nokia’s decline under Stephen Elop who reduced their value by a staggering EUR 18 million per day for every day he was in charge before getting a $25 million dollar bonus for selling the wreckage he did so much to create to Microsoft, his former and current employer. Over 100 former Nokia employees were interviewed for the book (which is only available in Finnish at the moment), many of them engineers and it seems the people who made the decision to exclusively adopt Windows Phone 7 hadn’t fully evaluated the OS before doing so, they just saw the money Microsoft dangled in front of them.

This is a direct quote from one of the engineers after having received in depth info on Windows Phone:
“We started to wonder whether anyone had actually studied Windows phone hands-on. And we came to conclude that no one had”

The engineers actually concluded Windows Phone was at least one full year behind their own MeeGo, which Elop had just pulled the plug on. It’s also claimed that it was only after the public announcement of the partnership that it was revealed to Nokia’s top level management that Windows phone could not be used in cheap phones, until that point they had been lead to believe that would be OK.

The money offered by Microsoft was not as good as it seemed either, as part of the deal after a honeymoon period Nokia were committed to buying a minimum number of Windows Phone licenses but their volumes had plummeted so badly as a result of adopting Windows Phone that they never got anywhere near those minimum volume levels so that turned into a rather expensive loan too.

Why does that not surprise me.
Sounds almost like some plot to devalue Nokia so the phone business could be bought up cheap.

And the Finnish Prime Minister blamed the wreckage on Apple! MS dodges another bullet…