I stumbled across a website for a product called Foo Basic and I am thinking about maybe using it as a frontend to a Xojo web project I am working on and am thinking I might use Xojo to handle the magic at the server side and Foo Basic for the mobile stuff (soon to be released for all types of devices). Anyone used it?
Nathan, just took a look at Foo Basic and I am not convinced (yet). I am still trying to get my head around Xojo’s web app environment and all of its foibles, so I am not ready to sacrifice too many more brain cells on another half developed system. It took me a long time to be convinced that realbasic/realstudio/Xojo was the one worth sticking with, so I am going to hang in there for the time being.
Regardless…Thanks for your post
I agree with you Chris, I love what I have already achieved with Xojo for client web projects but the fact that Xojo WE is so reliant on the server side is sometimes a pain and Foo Basic may provide a way to get the best of both worlds but I concur that it still looks very new and not very pretty IDE etc. Hopefully others may have looked at it and have comments.
I tried it before deciding on RealBasic (it was before Xojo). FooBasic had a nice web site, but the product was not holding to the promise. I went back today to see whether there is any progress, and my antivirus gave me a warning that the site is compromised and tried to place a trojan on my computer:
I tried placing the offending file reference here, but it shows up as a link… So, I deleted the file reference from this post. I will not post a link to a suspected virus!
Infection JS:Decode-BTB [Trj]
Perhaps this is a false positive, but I would be careful with the site for now.
I hadn’t heard of Foo Basic before but I have to say I found their demos rather underwhelming.
I find the way Xojo WE sends every client event to the server completely off-putting so I sympathise with your idea of using an alternative front-end.
I think a single page web application in conjunction with a remote procedure call server that communicate with each other using JSON works well. I recently created an application for which I used Qooxdoo on the client side. Qooxdoo is a framework from 1and1 that makes creating a web application feel more like desktop programming.
I have to confess to being a bit of a convert, not only does Qooxdoo have a great variety of desktop calibre widgets but not having to install anything client side is a real boon. If you use Google Chrome’s --app= command line switch in the shortcut to the application you really do end up with an application that’s very desktop-like.
Qooxdoo code is not Basic syntax though, it’s more JavaScript with types. Classes are defined as JSON objects and are extendible. There are some good tutorials available, a demo browser, a comprehensive api reference and helpful forum.
You can use whatever you like server side so long as it can parse and create JSON objects. I’ve successfully experimented with Xojo, Python, PHP, Node.js and Pascal.
I’d definitely recommend giving Qooxdoo a try.
Seems like I can’t even view their website in Safari as they require some third party cookies which I block here…
Didn’t work for me either. If they can’t make their own website work w/Safari, then I wouldn’t trust them, not even enough to look at the site in another browser. Moving along.
I tried it and got:
“This site requires your browser to allow cookies.
Please change your browser’s settings to allow cookies and try again.”
i got the message as Karen too
[quote=105776:@Karen Atkocius]“This site requires your browser to allow cookies.
Please change your browser’s settings to allow cookies and try again.”[/quote]
Same here like by Karen.
Steve to you have experience with python-web2py or python-django? I thought about having a closer look to both of them.
I just get a blank page when I go to the Foo website.
Another one you can try is Spider Basic
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=58020
[quote=105787:@George Balla]I just get a blank page when I go to the Foo website.
Another one you can try is Spider Basic
http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=58020[/quote]
There are so many flavors of similar products. I use Basic4Android (thought it’s tailored specifically for android devices).
I don’t have any experience of either but I believe web2py uses HTML templates with embedded placeholders, something like this:
{{=header}}
I somehow posted before I’d finished and now can’t see how to edit my incomplete post???
Anyhow, I was going to say I like to avoid HTML/CSS if possible, I find Qooxdoo much closer to desktop programming in nature.
What the… ?
My last post in this thread has a little edit and delete box in the top right corner but my previous two don’t!
** Edited** (just because I can)
[quote=105892:@Steve Wilson]What the… ?
My last post in this thread has a little edit and delete box in the top right corner but my previous two don’t!
** Edited** (just because I can)[/quote]
Same thing has been happening to me all day too… not sure what has changed.
Yesterday one of my questions was marked as answered, when it fact it wasn’t.
And then, when I tried to delete the answer post - it was not underneath my original question, so I couldn’t even delete it!