SBCs Other Than RasPi?

Is it possible to develop Xojo apps on Linux SBCs other than the Raspberry Pi? Like this for example:

https://up-board.org/upcore/specifications/

which can run Ubuntu?

there are other SBC’s people have had success with
arduinos and the orange pi’s and a few others

not sure how to evaluate the criteria to know IF you have a reasonable chance of success but start with the CPU
As long as its a of the same class as the Pi’s that are supported its a good start
Its the instruction set thats important

This board is based on an Intel Atom (X86) and probably will run most Linux distro’s as long it has enough memory. The Linux programs Xojo creates could run if you select to build for the X86 platform. The Rpi is based on an ARM processor and the available Linux OS’s are most 32 bit (armhf), however most other ARM-based SBC’s and newest versions of the Rpi currently are 64 bit and don’t support 32 bit. Because Xojo only creates 32 bit program’s you will have to be carefull to select which SBC you are going to develop for.

[quote=482255:@Norman Palardy]arduinos and the orange pi’s and a few others
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sorry I would really like to program arduinos with xojo IDE but it is not possible !

so you can make xojo apps (today) for rpi3 but not for rpi4 ?

That depends on the OS that runs on the Rpi, AFAIK for pi 3 and 4 are next to the 32 bit OS’s also 64 bit versions available.
On the 64 bit versions Xojo programs don’t work.

If your board has a 32/64bit linux with either ARM or Intel CPU, it may work to build an app with Xojo.
Just the 64-bit Arm version is missing currently, but there is a Feedback case for it.

try this one as well, unfortunately it has a Celeron, no idea how it works but for sure it has a lot of options, specially 4 storage options.

https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105864-p-4447.html

[quote=482289:@Aurelian Negrea]try this one as well, unfortunately it has a Celeron, no idea how it works but for sure it has a lot of options, specially 4 storage options.

https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105864-p-4447.html[/quote]
That’s a beauty, and I love that it can run full-blown Windows, but I need something < $130 for this project. Client absolutely will not use a RasPi due to its SD card reliability issues.

There are several threads on the forums about other small / inexpensive computers that are in use
search for “single board” in quotes

https://forum.xojo.com/conversation/post/333618
https://forum.xojo.com/44648-fastest-xojo-compatible-pi
https://forum.xojo.com/47043-asus-tinker
https://forum.xojo.com/41726-at91sam9g20-arm9-cpu-and-web-apps
https://forum.xojo.com/conversation/post/412344
https://forum.xojo.com/28296-a-new-raspberry-zero-contender-c-h-i-p
https://forum.xojo.com/19554-quad-core-raspberry-pi-2-out-now
https://forum.xojo.com/44558-windows-tablets

I’ve fairly sure I read an article recently saying that the raspberry pi 4 with 4gb is capable of running from a usb 3 SSD quite nicely.

not sure if that gets round the sd card reliability issues?

[quote=482340:@Russ Lunn]I’ve fairly sure I read an article recently saying that the raspberry pi 4 with 4gb is capable of running from a usb 3 SSD quite nicely.

not sure if that gets round the sd card reliability issues?[/quote]
Yeah, I’ve told them that repeatedly but they won’t listen :frowning:

I know one place using a pile of Raspberries for collecting all kinds of data from their production lines which are quite dirty and dusty
They have a bunch of duplicate the SD cards on standby
If a raspberry stops reporting they shut it off, put in a new SD, and restart it
Takes very little time
If it doesnt come back online they swap the whole thing
They have cases full of standby SD’s and raspberries they’re so cheap

In the 2 years they’ve been doing this I’m told they have swapped out about 6 SDs and 2 raspberries
not bad for such an inexpensive bit of kit

[quote=482344:@Norman Palardy]I know one place using a pile of Raspberries for collecting all kinds of data from their production lines which qre quite dirty and dusty
They have a bunch of duplicate the SD cards on standby
If a raspberry stops reporting they shut it off, put in a new SD, and restart it
Takes very little time
If it doesnt come back online they swap the whole thing
They have cases full of standby SD’s and raspberries they’re so cheap

In the 2 years they’ve been doing this I’m told they have swapped out about 6 SDs and 2 raspberries
not bad for such an inexpensive bit of kit[/quote]
If that’s a forum member I think I know who it is :slight_smile: This scenario wouldn’t be acceptable to my client - the device has to go into a closet somewhere and just work, for non-technical end users.

could you put a raspberry in a custom case with a tiny ssd attached ?
that way the sd card isnt the failure point ?

theyre not
these are in all kinds of weird spots - some very inaccessible and some in the wide open and easy to get at

[quote=482346:@Norman Palardy]could you put a raspberry in a custom case with a tiny ssd attached ?
that way the sd card isnt the failure point ?[/quote]
Yes, I could, and it would probably be fine. But as soon as I start splaining why it would be fine to my client, their eyes glaze over. They just won’t.

heh ok … that description actually made me laugh as I could just picture that going on :slight_smile:
but if they wont seriously consider a Pi with any form of HD SSD SD etc then the other options are in many respects very similar
They just arent named Pi :slight_smile:

Perhaps the intel NUC or gigabyte BRIX ?

Earlier generations can be had for around 100 UKP

Also… if it’s GPIO you need, perhaps an Ethernet to GPIO card could be used with a Xojo web app? We’ve used that idea and it works quite nicely.