macOS 10.15.4 was released

  1. 2 months ago

    Emile S

    Mar 24 Europe (France, Strasbourg)

    More information here:

    https://www.macrumors.com/2020/03/24/apple-releases-macos-catalina-10-15-4/

    they end the article saying it will probably be the last 10.15 update before 10.16.

  2. "One of the last updates", to write it down correct. ;)

  3. 9 weeks ago

    Scott C

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro twitter.com/ScottCadillac

    It's being reported today that the macOS 10.15.4 update has critical issues.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2020/04/06/macos-10-5-4-kernel-panic-crashing-issues/

    Thankfully I've held off and am still on 10.15.3.

    Surprisingly, my recently purchased Mac Mini (2018) with Catalina has been generally very stable, aside from the asynchronous colour picker that is.

    Note: I run both 2019r1.1 and 2019r3.1.

  4. Jeff T

    Apr 6 Midlands of England, Europe

    It's being reported today that the macOS 10.15.4 update has critical issues

    Ive been waiting for one that doesnt.
    Looks like it may be 10.16 then...

  5. 8 weeks ago

    James S

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro

    Yup, won’t be updating my older Catalina test machine to it, and by no means will it be getting anywhere near my regular work machine which is still on Mohave.

  6. Rick A

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro (Brazil. UTC-3:00)
    Edited 8 weeks ago

    Catalina is the Apple's Windows Vista. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/04/01/apples_macos_catalina_ssh/

  7. Michel B

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro

    I have elected to upgrade to Catalina, including 10.15.4. No issue so far.

    I rather have exactly the same system version as my customers.

  8. Michel B

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro

    @Rick A Catalina is the Apple's Windows Vista. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/04/01/apples_macos_catalina_ssh/

    Vista was WAY worse than Catalina. It was a deep, intense, utter failure, with illusions of grandeur, and the elegance of a pachyderm...

    BTW, it was supposed to be a Mac killer :D

  9. Anthony C

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro, XDC Speakers, Third Party Store, Forum Moderators, MVP GraffitiSuite Developer

    I'm still running Mojave with Catalina in a VM.

  10. Rick A

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro (Brazil. UTC-3:00)

    @Michel B I have elected to upgrade to Catalina, including 10.15.4

    I do prefer Anthony's approach. Or a separate test machine if you can have such luxury. :)

  11. Anthony C

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro, XDC Speakers, Third Party Store, Forum Moderators, MVP GraffitiSuite Developer

    @Rick A I do prefer Anthony's approach. Or a separate test machine if you can have such luxury.

    I will be upgrading soon(ish), but for now I'm happy to spend time testing in the VM.

  12. Rick A

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro (Brazil. UTC-3:00)
    Edited 8 weeks ago

    I always wait the last stable one of a series. Not an early adopter. VM fan.

  13. James S

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro

    @Anthony C I'm still running Mojave with Catalina in a VM.

    Can you share with us the specifics of that? How you set it up? The reason I installed it on my daughters old laptop rather than my own machine to start with was because I had read about issues even installing it on external drives that it made changes to the internal drive format even if that wasn’t where you were installing that made it impossible to reload back to an earlier version. Rather than risk such a mess I opted to run my tests on one of the oldest machines it still supports ;) But would rather have it in a VM here on the same machine with me.

  14. Anthony C

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro, XDC Speakers, Third Party Store, Forum Moderators, MVP GraffitiSuite Developer
    Edited 8 weeks ago

    I've had no issues. I use VirtualBox on Mac, so there are some extra steps and it's likely not as fast as it should be. I'd recommend going with Parallels or VMWare. If you use either of those, it's probably a very simple install process.

  15. Norman P

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro outside LMAO !!!!!!!

    @Rick A I do prefer Anthony's approach. Or a separate test machine if you can have such luxury. :)

    separate bootable drive works well
    I can boot everything from 10.10 to 10.15

  16. Norman P

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro outside LMAO !!!!!!!

    @James S Can you share with us the specifics of that? How you set it up? The reason I installed it on my daughters old laptop rather than my own machine to start with was because I had read about issues even installing it on external drives that it made changes to the internal drive format even if that wasn’t where you were installing that made it impossible to reload back to an earlier version. Rather than risk such a mess I opted to run my tests on one of the oldest machines it still supports ;) But would rather have it in a VM here on the same machine with me.

    Never had one second of issue with such a thing
    I did have to reinstall catalina a few times on external media due to the drive partitions getting corrupted but never had any issue bouncing back and forth between the internal and external bootable drives

  17. Tim P

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro Rochester, NY

    I prefer the bootable drive approach as VMs never ran smoothly for me. I can confirm that it's possible to partition for Catalina and still use the drive.

  18. Anthony C

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro, XDC Speakers, Third Party Store, Forum Moderators, MVP GraffitiSuite Developer

    There are certainly some trade-offs when using VMs. Performance being the primary one, but I've never had any actual issues with my VMs once setup.

  19. James S

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro

    Thanks so much you guys, I’ve overcome my fear then and will install it on an external drive. From that I expect I can boot into virtual box or boot the machine natively off it and switch back and forth.

  20. Norman P

    Apr 6 Testers, Xojo Pro outside LMAO !!!!!!!

    I use VM's for quick and dirty tests
    And most times that sufficient but there are some things that a VM wont show you
    And thats when a bootable drive works well

    Being able to do either is useful as heck

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