Your favorite RB/RS/Xojo IDE version for coding and why?

  1. 4 weeks ago

    Dave S

    Oct 22 San Diego, California USA

    What did you like and/or dislike about particular versions..
    I've been here since 2006, and don't really remember the nuances in the past... (I don't remember breakfast either)

  2. Norman P

    Oct 22 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Outside

    5.5 and prior
    Pros
    inspector, control palette etc were all floating palettes (something that has never reappeared)
    written in C++ so it was pretty fast
    Cons
    written in C++ so engineers didnt use it all day every day and may not see bugs in it

    2006 - 2012
    Pros
    single window so it was all compact
    tabs stayed focus on one item and could not be shifted about

    Cons
    single window which drove those of us that used the older versions nuts as the palettes were all gone

    2013 - now
    Pros
    navigator gives decent overview
    llvm based compilers

    Cons
    navigator isnt needed in every tab
    navigator isnt fast enough

  3. Andrew L

    Oct 22 San Francisco, CA, USA
    Edited 4 weeks ago

    RealStudio 2011r4.3 is what I've been using since it came out. I like it because it's new enough that things like AddHandler are available (introduced in 2010r4), but old enough to avoid the extra DLLs that RS2012+ always generate. It still will generate plugin DLLs if you use plugin features in the app, but it's possible to generate a standalone executable if you're careful. I also prefer the old-style IDE layout over the Xojo layout.

  4. Dave S

    Oct 22 San Diego, California USA

    @Norman P inspector, control palette etc were all floating palettes (something that has never reappeared

    This is still in Xojo.... I too thought it wasn't, but PREF->GENERAL->SHOW LIBRARY AND INSPECTOR

  5. Dave S

    Oct 22 San Diego, California USA

    I never saw any version prior to 2006

  6. Norman P

    Oct 22 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Outside
    Edited 4 weeks ago

    @Dave S This is still in Xojo.... I too thought it wasn't, but PREF->GENERAL->SHOW LIBRARY AND INSPECTOR

    thats only those two
    the project browser and everything was all in floating palettes which let you put all the palettes on one monitor & everything else on another
    its not quite the same
    you can see some of it in the old RB:TDG from Matt Neuberg
    https://www.amazon.com/REALbasic-Definitive-Guide-Matt-Neuburg/dp/1565926579

  7. Karen A

    Oct 22 Pre-Release Testers

    @Dave S This is still in Xojo.... I too thought it wasn't, but PREF->GENERAL->SHOW LIBRARY AND INSPECTOR

    But remember the Tips window and being able to see all the method overloads?... i REALLY miss that still.

    -Karen

  8. Robert B

    Oct 22 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro University of Connecticut

    2017R3 It generates the fastest 64-bit code of all the versions for number crunching applications.

  9. Dave S

    Oct 22 San Diego, California USA

    :) I was asking more from a project managment point of view.. layout, coding etc...

  10. Robert B

    Oct 22 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro University of Connecticut

    Sorry Dave. You asked us what we liked or disliked about particular versions. And 2017R3 produces great 64-bit scientific applications, so that is important to me.

    Frankly, my favorite version for coding is 5.5.

  11. Michel B

    Oct 22 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro
    Edited 4 weeks ago

    I had a love story with RB 2007R3 for a while. At the time, that was all I needed, so I did not renew for a couple years.

  12. Robert B

    Oct 22 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro University of Connecticut
    Edited 4 weeks ago

    @Michel B I had a love story with RB 2007R3 for a while. At the time, that was all I needed, so I did not renew for a couple years.

    What made you change to a new version, and which one do you prefer now?

  13. Dave S

    Oct 22 San Diego, California USA

    Probably the same as the rest of us...... The compiler and other features were more required

  14. Karen A

    Oct 22 Pre-Release Testers

    5.5 was what i liked best... Got used to RealStudio... While it has improved, my least favorite is still the Xojo IDE.

    - karen

  15. Emile S

    Oct 23 Europe (France, Strasbourg)
    Edited 4 weeks ago

    @Karen A 5.5 was what i liked best

    Same for me.

    I upgraded to 2005r1 (I think it was that) and it tooks me months to force me to left 5.5.5.

    It tooks me years to forget my 5.5.5 (and prior) habits.

    I came to REALbasic prior the first release, in early 1998.

  16. Michel B

    Oct 23 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro

    @Robert B What made you change to a new version, and which one do you prefer now?

    If I remember right, I had to change to comply with Apple requirements.

    Since then, I cannot tell which version of the IDE I like most.

    I do like the Xojo IDE in general, though. I find it much cleaner than the RB one.

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