Whats the killer deal with Catalina?

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  2. 4 months ago

    Dave S

    Oct 5 San Diego, California USA

    So... Beatrix... could you tell us how you really feel? :)

    I don't have a compatible machine to play with this on, so I am relying on the insights of others at the moment.
    So I assume that for the most part, the recent GM release is not much better than the previous few betas? Which if true does not bode well for the Public Release, since a GM is supposed to be that candidate

  3. Beatrix W

    Oct 5 Pre-Release Testers, Third Party Store Europe (Germany)

    a) I had a user last week where the applications folder was nil, then it was not nil. I had to add back a workaround. That was beta 9 I think.

    b) Bugs still get fixed as usual. But there is no communication anymore. In former times my bug reports got closed as duplicate - usually. Then I got informed that the duplicate bug was fixed. This time the bugs just sit around until I notice that they are fixed. And the number of bugs was much higher.

  4. Rick A

    Oct 5 Pre-Release Testers (Brazil. UTC-3:00)

    @Beatrix W Crapolina

    -image-

  5. Norman P

    Oct 5 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro outside listening to the silen...

    @Sam R I would imagine that most of the people who upgrade today are either, somewhat prepared for stuff to be broken, or are in for a nasty surprise.

    Mac users are often "Upgrade first. Ask questions later" kinds of users

  6. Beatrix W

    Oct 5 Pre-Release Testers, Third Party Store Europe (Germany)

    @Rick Araujo: the kudos go to Sam Rowlands. A user said "Mac Vista".

  7. Tim J

    Oct 5 Pre-Release Testers N. Phoenix, AZ

    So far, I've received 23 notices from various professional audio and video oriented apps (and a few games) warning me to steer clear of Catalina until they notify me that they've sorted out issues caused by Catalina. I also have 7 bug reports for Apple''s own tools Logic Pro X and Motion filed against the latest Catalina beta. They can't even keep their own app teams updated - so definitely a repeat of Vista ...

    I'm so happy that all of my personal Macs run 10.13.6 well. Also, if you're a cutter (video or audio) DaVinci Resolve and Traction both work wonderfully on the current Linux releases (Resolve is actually faster on Linux than the same Machine running Windows 10).

  8. Jürg O

    Oct 29 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro
    Edited 4 months ago

    @RichardNicolella SelectColor can only be used once on Catalina. The second time the app will blink out of existence.
    I entered a Feedback case on August 3, 2019. The Catalina GM is out today and it still crashes. My app uses SelectColor heavily and will now be worthless in Catalina.
    Can anyone suggest a workaound?

    Apple seems to have fixed the crash that occurred with SelectColor in macOS 10.15.1 (19B88).
    The Color Picker in an application built with Xojo 2018r4 works again just fine. And... no modal/async issues such as reported for Xojo 2019r2 ;)
    So no workaround needed - but your users need to update from 10.15 to 10.15.1.

  9. Sam R

    Oct 29 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro, Third Party Store Hengchun, Pingtung, Taiwan

    @Jürg O Apple seems to have fixed the crash that occurred with SelectColor in macOS 10.15.1 (19B88).

    That's lucky,
    I was reading about how one developer to make an app compatible with Catalina, created a hacked library that swizzled all the API calls which are now gone or broken. Then modified the launch commands of the main executable, to load this hacked library first, then the executable.

    Quite impressive and all without having to recompile the application. I love the power of swizzling in Objective-C..

  10. Tanner L

    is not verified Oct 29 Pre-Release Testers Canada

    @Sam R I was reading about how one developer to make an app compatible with Catalina, created a hacked library that swizzled all the API calls which are now gone or broken

    Is this what you're referring to?

    https://github.com/cormiertyshawn895/Retroactive/blob/master/README.md

  11. Sam R

    Oct 29 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro, Third Party Store Hengchun, Pingtung, Taiwan

    @Tanner L Is this what you're referring to?
    https://github.com/cormiertyshawn895/Retroactive/blob/master/README.md

    That's the app; but not the article where they detailed all the steps. I think I would have given up after about the 7th or 10th step. But I'm impressed with their dedication.

    Shows how little the dev thinks of Apple's latest Photo management software, that they're willing to do all this work, instead of accepting the newer app (which is pretty terrible compared to iPhoto IMHO).

  12. Ulrich B

    Oct 30 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Europe (Germany, Berlin) · xo...

    Another entry in this series. This happens when I try to install Xcode components on Catalina 10.15.1:

    Domain=PKInstallErrorDomain Code=102 "The package “MobileDeviceDevelopment.pkg” is untrusted." UserInfo={NSLocalizedDescription=The package “MobileDeviceDevelopment.pkg” is untrusted., NSURL=MobileDeviceDevelopment.pkg -- file:///Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Resources/Packages/, PKInstallPackageIdentifier=com.apple.pkg.MobileDeviceDevelopment, NSUnderlyingError=0x7fb2542c9160 {Error Domain=NSOSStatusErrorDomain Code=-2147409654 "CSSMERR_TP_CERT_EXPIRED" UserInfo={SecTrustResult=5, PKTrustLevel=PKTrustLevelExpiredCertificate, NSLocalizedFailureReason=CSSMERR_TP_CERT_EXPIRED}}}

  13. Tomas J

    Oct 30 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Europe (Germany)

    @Beatrix W Crapolina is coming soon, though.

    I am in favor of Catavista...

  14. Julia T

    Oct 30 Sandy Hook, Connecticut

    Took my MBP to the Apple Store the other day for its fourth keyboard replacement. They said "We can just give you a whole new computer, it's faster than a repair - you can take it with you now." "What OS does it have?" "Catalina", they replied. "No thanks, I'll wait for the repair".

  15. Michel B

    Oct 30 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro

    I already had several customers under Catalina.

  16. Jeff T

    Oct 30 Pre-Release Testers Midlands of England, Europe

    I already had several customers under Catalina.

    I can spot them a mile away.
    "Your app won't save"
    'When Catalina asked if you wanted to allow our app to access the documents folder, did you say 'No'? "
    "Of course, that's the best for security isn't it...?"

  17. Beatrix W

    Oct 30 Pre-Release Testers, Third Party Store Europe (Germany)

    Another fun crash: if you use AquaticPrime then the app can crash in 15.1 with

    Application Specific Information:
    Invalid dylib load. Clients should not load the unversioned libcrypto dylib as it does not have a stable ABI.

    Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
    0 libvshared_fat_release_x64.dylib 0x0000000114f213ac fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::Location_Disk_FSRef>::operator=(fbl::Location_Disk_FSRef*) + 38
    1 libvshared_fat_release_x64.dylib 0x0000000114f211da fbl::Location_Disk_FSRef::get_ChildLocation(fbl::String const&) const + 160
    2 ??? 0x00650054003a003a 0 + 28429333428830266

    And when I checked the libcrypto dylib I can see that the normal alias to the correct dylib has been replaced by a normal non-alias file. I had to link to a static file that is present for High Sierra to Catalina. Head on desk.

  18. @Jeff T I can spot them a mile away.
    "Your app won't save"
    'When Catalina asked if you wanted to allow our app to access the documents folder, did you say 'No'? "
    "Of course, that's the best for security isn't it...?"

    For security, dear user, do not save anything.

  19. Norman P

    Oct 30 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro outside listening to the silen...

    unplug the computer
    put it in a box
    send it back to the manufacturer

    nice and safe :P

  20. Safest. :)

  21. Beatrix W

    Nov 1 Pre-Release Testers, Third Party Store Europe (Germany)
    Edited 4 months ago

    Has anything changed in 15.1 in regards to the many "do want to give app xyz access to folder"? Whenever I started my app in the debugger I had to do at least one of these. Now I don't get the message anymore.

    Catalina is too stupid. How can you screw up menus? For some apps I only get the last menu item and nothing else.

    Just now I did a screenshot and wanted to have a look: "It's not possible to open the file". WTF???

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