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  1. 3 months ago

    Gavin S

    Jul 9 Pre-Release Testers UK
    Edited 3 months ago

    Entry-Level 13-Inch MacBook Pro Updated With 8th-Gen Processors, Touch Bar, Touch ID, and T2 Security Chip
    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/09/base-13-inch-mbp-gets-8th-gen-touch-bar-t2/

    Apple Drops Prices on High-End Storage Upgrades for iMac, iMac Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac mini, and Mac Pro
    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/09/storage-upgrades-price-drop/

    New MacBook Air and Base 13-Inch MacBook Pro Have Same Keyboard as Higher-End 2019 MacBook Pros
    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/09/all-2019-macbooks-have-new-material-keyboard/

    MacBook Air Updated With True Tone Display and Lower $1,099 Starting Price
    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/09/macbook-air-updated-true-tone-lower-1099-price/

  2. Art G

    Jul 9 Prescott AZ

    My 12" MacBook is now a collector's item! And I'm glad I held off ordering a new mini with that SSD price cut.

  3. Michel B

    Jul 9 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro RubberViews.com

    That touch bar will never cease to amuse me :D

  4. Jean-Yves P

    Jul 9 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Europe (France, Besançon)

    I like "price have dropped from insanely expensive to super expensive" comment ... ;)

  5. Michael D

    Jul 9 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro

    On the SSD pricing side, while it's true you can get a 1TB SSD for about $110, that's the price for super cheap SSD - higher quality (longer life and faster) SSDs are still $250-$300 per TB. So Apple's price of $400/TB is not that out of line now.

  6. Emile S

    Jul 9 Europe (France, Strasbourg)

    For non USB 3 laptops, is it a good idea to buy an SSD ?
    (are they fast enough compared to standard HDs ?)

  7. Douglas H

    Jul 9 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro

    If the laptop drive is easy to access, I'd suggest you replace the internal drive with an SSD so it it not limited to USB2 connections. More than likely if you have a laptop that does not have USB3, it will be a SATA drive connection and easily cloned and replaced (if access is not too difficult). And yes, the difference is incredible, especially if the drive was 5400rpm.

    OTOH, if the machine is old enough to not have USB3, then it may be better to just replace it. Even my 2012 Macbook Pro had USB3 (and Thunderbolt v1).

  8. Jean-Yves P

    Jul 9 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Europe (France, Besançon)

    @Emile S For non USB 3 laptops, is it a good idea to buy an SSD ?
    (are they fast enough compared to standard HDs ?)

    yes
    boot from an external usb2 adapter from an ssd or from a hard drive and it's quite 2x faster.

  9. Markus W

    Jul 10 Pre-Release Testers #JeSuisHuman New Zealand, Auc...
    Edited 3 months ago

    @Jean-YvesPochez yes
    boot from an external usb2 adapter from an ssd or from a hard drive and it's quite 2x faster.

    Nonsense.

    An internal 2.5in harddisk has a transfer rate of around 60 MB/sec.

    According to the USB specification USB2 has a maximum data transfer rate of 480 Mbit/sec, or 60 MB/sec. But that maximum is rarely reached, so a typical transfer rate is around 20-40 MB/sec.

    Which is SLOWER than the internal harddisk.

    [that’s why FireWire 400 beat the pants of USB2 because FireWire had nearly 400MBit/sec SUSTAINED transfer rate, not PEAK transfer rate]

    A 2.5in SSD can usually do around 500 MB/sec, but the bottleneck is the USB connection.

    In a computer with a SATA3 connection (max throughput 6 Gbit/sec or 750 MB/sec) you get pretty much full speed.

    But older computers have SATA2 connectors (max 3 Gbit/sec or 375 MB/sec) so the SSD canöt use its full potential.

    But 375 MB/sec internally on SATA2 is still MUCH faster than 30 MB/sec via USB2.

    That’s why replacing your internal 60 MB/sec harddisk with a 375 MB/sec SSD feels like having a new computer.

  10. Christian S

    Jul 10 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro, XDC Speakers, Third Party Store Germany

    Well, apple has really good SSDs with PCIe attachment.
    So I can write on my MacBook Pro over 2 giga bytes per Second to disk, which is very handy.
    That is way more, you may get out from an external one.

  11. Emile S

    Jul 10 Europe (France, Strasbourg)

    I went to Offenburg (Germany) some days ago and saw SSD delivered with a USB 2 to USB 3 cable at nice price (for me).

    I saw the light and feel I will loose the SSD speed if I use that…

    On the other hand, my 4 years old MacBook Pro certainly SSD is not build as a 2.5" traditional hard disk, but certainly like standard RAM…

    Thank you Apple (or my lack of work: depends on the point of view) for their gold laptop (not the color, the metal: price). Even the brand new releases are too expensives. I will probably wait for a new bunch of releases (in 2020 ?).

    PS: in my previous MacBook Pro, I replaced my internal HD (6400rpm) with a 1TB 7200 rpm and that was good (really good) and I do not talk about internal memory).

  12. Jean-Yves P

    Jul 10 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Europe (France, Besançon)

    @Markus W Nonsense.

    An internal 2.5in harddisk has a transfer rate of around 60 MB/sec.

    sorry practical sense ...
    I do this almost everyday. booting from an external hard drive on old macs with usb2
    it's really faster with an ssd than a mechanical hard drive.
    surely because hard drives don't reach the 60MB/s rate except when brand new ?

  13. Markus W

    Jul 10 Pre-Release Testers #JeSuisHuman New Zealand, Auc...

    @Jean-YvesPochez sorry practical sense ...
    I do this almost everyday. booting from an external hard drive on old macs with usb2
    it's really faster with an ssd than a mechanical hard drive.
    surely because hard drives don't reach the 60MB/s rate except when brand new ?

    Depends on how old the harddisk is and what its specs are. Very good modern harddisks have transfer rates up to 220 MB/sec, but around 100 MB/sec is the normal speed for modern Harddisks.

    Old harddisks? Slow speed to start with, fragmentation, large indexes, cache, internal backups (if you don’t have the external backup drive attached it makes internal backups), bad sectors, corrupt files, damaged fonts, background apps (it’s amazing what people forget that they installed) can all influence the speed of an old drive.

    But it should ALWAYS be faster than USB2 unless it is more than ten years old.

  14. Michel B

    Jul 10 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro RubberViews.com

    For an older machine, Thunderbolt is the solution. For a more recent one, USB-3 is good.

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