Ehm. For the physical book, strangely, it's cheaper from the UK shipped express
Correction is necessary here - USA paperback is nearly twice as expensive as a paperback (w/ int'l express skipping incl.) from the UK.
UK has no Kindle version available to me, but USA store has Kindle at half cost of UK paperback.
@Gavin S Totally agree. I'd never build a business around something that Google might abandon in 6 months. Say what you want about Xojo, but they've been here for 20 years now.
Thats really hillarious and out of context. Try to compile some source code from realbasic 1.0. Shure, mobile is changing faster, but is not only android, also iOS, and the desktop just little slower
For Android, yes, B4A is the way to go. Actually I have a Xojo Pro licence, but I use B4i to make iOS Apps, better performance, can share source code On Android and iOS projects and you can purchase BOTH for a great price.
Also now, I'm porting some web apps to B4J, real multithread and better performance (and also free)
@Paul B There is a very good B4A book on Amazon to ease your learning
No need for the book, all you need is on their home page.
Completely agreed with your opinion. If someone prefer another tool than Xojo, just use that tool but don't announce the competitors here. It is simply not fair to Xojo.
Somebody considering Android : I think the Xojo - Android release will come soon. As I understand correctly using Xojo will have the advantage of converting your desktop and other apps made with Xojo more easy to Android.
Now this thread should be locked.
@Joost R it is sour that we promote a competitor here while the Xojo team is developing XFA.
Maybe; but the Xojo version isn't ready and from what I understand, the other tool is probably the closest to Xojo at the moment, which should mean that once the Xojo version is ready, it won't be too difficult to fold your Android application back into Xojo and continue using our preferred development tool of choice.
Now if Xojo for Android were available, I would then absolutely agree with you.
mmmmm, as usual michel, your opinion is your opinion, thankfully its limited, very limited, and may be very unfair, largely because its your opinion.
currently Xojo has no android, other vendors do, and the one mentioned is extremely good, and it compares very readily with where many people might hope Xojo (i really hope!) hit with their offering.
the only tool i use other than Xojo, for non embedded code, is the previously mentioned product. its very good , the UI is not how you describe it at all.
it is important to future readers of this thread not to be misguided by you and your unfounded opinions.
Not to start a war here, as *I* have no opinion about that product.... But Michel is allowed his opinion, and is allowed to state it, just as you are allowed yours and the ability to state it.... but you don't have the right to degrinate Michel, or his opinion. His opinion has equal validity to yours....
So in Michels opinion the IDE for that product is lacking is some respects, in your opinion it is not.
I thank you both for stating your opinions, even if I don't think one of them was stated in a fair and balanced manner
I guess we have here a classic case of "my car is the best in the world", as can be witnessed through countless bar discussions about the compared virtues of Ford and GM cars.
For the record, I have had a Pro license of B4A for some like 5 years now, and am just as entitled to an informed opinion as any other user.
Side by side, Xojo is light years better in terms of ergonomic and aesthetics. A child would see it. It does not mean the product is bad. Just that it's UI could be improved. Denying it shows a lack of judgement IMHO. Or a bad lack of knowledge in matters of UI.
One of the reasons I enjoy Xojo so much is the quality of it's UI editor. I look forward to see the Android version.
One of the objectives of API 2.0, the new new framework, is to bring IOS together with all other targets. Therefore, we can anticipate that IOS, Android, Web and the four desktop targets will share a much more common code base under API 2.0 than exists today (very limited commonality between IOS and the rest).
The proof will be in the pudding but I am looking forward to seeing the new API 2.0 framework. Call me an optimist if you want.