WinZip, or similar?? Alternatives!?

  1. 12 months ago

    Jakob K

    26 Apr 2016 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Sweden

    I'm about to post my software to the site... Ready for public download. But how do I post it the best way!?

    Maybe WinZip is not the best!? Are there other alternatives!?

  2. Michel B

    26 Apr 2016 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro
    Edited 12 months ago by Michel B

    I have been using zipped archives on my sites for 20 years or so without issue. Make sure to use use legacy compression so Windows can unpack.

  3. Roger C

    26 Apr 2016 Lewis Center, OH

    If you need to place some files in specific locations, or if you want your software to install in a professional looking manner, have a look at the FREE Inno Setup. It produces a very nice installer which is like what most Windows users (IMHO) expect.

  4. Christian S

    26 Apr 2016 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Europe (Germany)

    On Mac you can use zip command line tool.

    Or write your own tool in Xojo.

  5. Merv P

    26 Apr 2016 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro

    On Windows? Inno Setup. Easy to use and Free.

  6. Peter J

    is not verified 26 Apr 2016 KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa
    Edited 12 months ago by Peter J

    Most Windows users expect an installer, and that is what Microsoft recommend they say. Personally I prefer a straight .zip or some such archive. Installers have the habit of splattering all kinds of cack ( Afrikaans: kak ) all over your hard drive and registry, and many require you to have your wits about you and to read the small print or they install ghastly "optional" rubbish that you neither want nor need. Even Adobe Reader tries to get you to install McAfee nonsense, and I see EAC wants to install heaven knows what these days.

    Plain archives are also called "portable" nowadays - maybe offer your user both an installer and an archive.

  7. Michel B

    26 Apr 2016 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro
    Edited 12 months ago by Michel B

    Antiviruses tend to frown on exe files. Hence it is a good idea to package the installer into a zip file. It also allows packing a ReadMe file and a user license file at the same time that can be read before install.

    That is what I do.

    Adding junkware to an installer is stupid. Would it be Adobe and its idiotic push for McAffee or freewares that are so jammed packed with garbage, it is plain ridiculous.

  8. Jakob K

    26 Apr 2016 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Sweden

    Thank you!
    Let me be more specific:
    I use Windows and I compile for the others, Mac and Linux.
    My software is a "first post"... Meaning, there is not really a user base. No person has tried the software besides me.

    WinZip will do the work!
    I'd like the free alternative. Maybe there is a Mozilla alternative!?

    At this moment, I don't care for installers... Since I can't try and verify the use. I hope to do in the future, but not in the moment.
    I'd love an installer in the future!

    ***
    > On Windows? Inno Setup. Easy to use and Free.

    I'll look into this one!
    ** Oh! That's an installer for Windows!

    ***
    http://download.cnet.com/s/utilities-file-compression/windows/

    Maybe this list will give some possible alternative!?
    I'll look later!!

    Thank you all for all input!!

  9. Michel B

    26 Apr 2016 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro

    I have been using Winzip since the nineties, and actually my current license dates back to the 2000's.

    However, I have used 7Zip too. It is open source if you are looking for a free solution.

    About CNet, beware their junkware ridden installers ; always make sure to download from the author's web site.

  10. Paul L

    26 Apr 2016 Xojo Inc http://developer.xojo.com

    Some tips for you:

    User Guide -> Desktop Deployment

  11. Merv P

    26 Apr 2016 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro
    Edited 12 months ago by Merv P

    If that is all you want to do is bundle it up and you'll be the end user, a lot of people use 7-Zip as an alternative to WinZip (I personally prefer WinZip).

    If you are going to distribute your application for other users, on Windows, take a little time and get an installer like Inno Setup. Everyone knows how to click a link, but asking some users to unzip a file into a certain location is going to be trouble for some users.

    NOTE TO MICHELE: Didn't you have some other Windows installer you liked? I thought I recalled that?

  12. Jakob K

    26 Apr 2016 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Sweden

    Thank you!
    7 Zip will be a good solution for now.
    These users know how to deal with Zip-files. No worries!

    I actually got the impression that WinZip was a part of Windows... Well, it's not the case, I now understand! :-)
    I don't mind to purchase a license, if that's what it takes!

    In the future, I'd love to get a proper installer! Thanks for the Desktop Development link!! Very informative! :-)

  13. Doesn't Windows generally open a zip file without needing any additional software ?
    It seems to here and I've not installed 7Zip etc

  14. Peter J

    is not verified 26 Apr 2016 KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa

    Yes.

  15. Michel B

    27 Apr 2016 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro
    Edited 12 months ago by Michel B

    @Norman P Doesn't Windows generally open a zip file without needing any additional software ?
    It seems to here and I've not installed 7Zip etc

    7Zip or Winzip are necessary to prepare the archive. Then Windows can extract it without any additional software.

  16. Jeff T

    27 Apr 2016 Midlands of England, Europe

    7Zip or Winzip are necessary to prepare the archive.

    I hate being 'that guy', but...

    If you have a folder containing your stuff, you can right click on the folder name in Explorer, and choose
    Send To / Compressed Folder

    Tada!
    Instant zip file.

    But Inno Setup IS a proper installer. And it's free.

  17. Michel B

    27 Apr 2016 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro

    @Jeff T If you have a folder containing your stuff, you can right click on the folder name in Explorer, and choose
    Send To / Compressed Folder

    I had not noticed that feature. Old habits die hard, Winzip has become a reflex for so long. That is indeed quite convenient. Just the same as Compress in Mac OS X.

    7Zip remains interesting in some cases as it manages many more compression methods.

    @Jeff T But Inno Setup IS a proper installer. And it's free.

    As I wrote above, linking to a naked exe will trigger warnings from antiviruses as well as Internet Explorer ("this file may damage your computer" !), so it is always batter to package the installer in a zip archive for distribution.

  18. Louis D

    27 Apr 2016 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Montreal, QC, Canada

    A third party for Zip per se is no longer necessary as @Jeff T pointed out. However, I like 7Zip because it supports a very large veriety of archives. It happens that I come across less common archives. 7Zip usually handles them nicely.

  19. Mattias S

    27 Apr 2016 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Europe (Sweden, Stockholm)

    @LouisDesjardins However, I like 7Zip because it supports a very large veriety of archives. It happens that I come across less common archives. 7Zip usually handles them nicely.

    7Zip is soooo much faster than the Windows built-in archive handler. I deal daily with multi-GB zip-archives (database dumps) and 7Zip just zips through them :-)

  20. Paul L

    27 Apr 2016 Xojo Inc http://developer.xojo.com

    I love 7zip. It's the first thing I install when I set up a new Windows installation.

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