Freemium will continue

  1. 4 years ago

    Geoff P

    22 May 2015 Xojo Inc Austin, Texas

    As you know, we made an announcement this week that we were going to switch from the freemium model back to the 30-day trial model. This was based on our analysis of freemium user data. Some new information we discovered after the announcement led us to further analysis which revealed that the revenue difference between the two models is not as significant as we had originally thought. That’s just the way it goes sometimes.

    Many of you have done a great job of articulating the benefits of that model. We love the freemium model too. It has many benefits that are not offset by an incremental difference in revenue. Therefore we have decided to continue with the freemium model for the foreseeable future. To those of you who joined in on the discussion about the merits of the two models, we appreciate your input.

  2. Amando B

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Europe (Spain, Santiago Compos...

    Awesome news!!! I am so happy you will maintain freemium for Xojo!

  3. Alwyn B

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Johannesburg, South Africa

    +1

    Thank you for keeping the freemium model. This way it is much easier to convince peer developers to try Xojo.

  4. Tim H

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers Portland, OR USA

    I'm actually relieved by this. Not that I care about freemium vs trial, but that it didn't cause a significant loss of revenue.

  5. Johnny H

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers United States - Arkansas

    + 1

  6. Sunil A

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Kuwait

    This proves that Xojo listens to the community. Excellent news.

  7. Thom M

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers Greater Hartford Area, CT

    This, I was not expecting.

  8. Jens K

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Europe (Germany)

    Respect.

  9. Adelar D

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers Vitória, Brasil

    Great News!

  10. Markus W

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers #JeSuisHuman New Zealand, Auc...
    Edited 4 years ago

    But really, was it necessary to delete the other thread? Good ideas were posted there so I do not understand that at all:

    https://forum.xojo.com/22575-why-freemium-mode-did-not-work-imho

    P.S. … and remove the blog posting too?

  11. Geoff P

    22 May 2015 Xojo Inc Austin, Texas

    @Markus W But really, was it necessary to delete the other thread? Good ideas were posted there so I do not understand that at all:

    https://forum.xojo.com/22575-why-freemium-mode-did-not-work-imho

    P.S. … and remove the blog posting too?

    While it's not confusing to those that read it from the beginning, it would be confusing to people that came across it later. We'd rather not create more confusion. In fact, we will be deleting this message as well in a few days.

    Nothing to see here. Move along..... :)

  12. Neil M

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro

    You guys should figure out a way to get open source guys using Xojo. That's a massive untapped market right there.

  13. Amando B

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Europe (Spain, Santiago Compos...

    @Neil M You guys should figure out a way to get open source guys using Xojo. That's a massive untapped market right there.

    Open Source Xojo? Why? I prefer the fremium model. I do know tons of abandoned Open Source projects and I do like how the Xojo is handling it product, adding tons of stuff not depending on volunteers.

  14. Thom M

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers Greater Hartford Area, CT

    @Amando B Open Source Xojo? Why? I prefer the fremium model. I do know tons of abandoned Open Source projects and I do like how the Xojo is handling it product, adding tons of stuff not depending on volunteers.

    No... he means more open source projects using Xojo, not open source the product itself.

  15. Amando B

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers, Xojo Pro Europe (Spain, Santiago Compos...

    @Thom M No... he means more open source projects using Xojo, not open source the product itself.

    Oh! Thanks for your advice @Thom M. Language barrier again!! I misunderstood @Neil M post. Sorry!

    Well, in any case it would be my position for the open source Xojo position ;)

    Really appreciate your post, my English is limited.

  16. Thom M

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers Greater Hartford Area, CT

    @Amando B Oh! Thanks for your advice @Thom M. Language barrier again!! I misunderstood @Neil M post. Sorry!

    Well, in any case it would be my position for the open source Xojo position ;)

    Really appreciate your post, my English is limited.

    No problem.

  17. Joseph E

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers CA

    @Geoff P While it's not confusing to those that read it from the beginning, it would be confusing to people that came across it later. We'd rather not create more confusion. In fact, we will be deleting this message as well in a few days.

    Nothing to see here. Move along..... :)

    This message will self destruct in three, two, ........

    This is all good news!

  18. Peter J

    is not verified 22 May 2015 KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa
    Edited 4 years ago

    @Geoff P While it's not confusing to those that read it from the beginning, it would be confusing to people that came across it later. We'd rather not create more confusion. In fact, we will be deleting this message as well in a few days.

    Nothing to see here. Move along..... :)

    It will be just like the past never happened. While I understand the marketing need, I hate attempts to manipulate history by censorship. Jesus may save, but Google caches.

  19. Karen A

    22 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers

    Whatever the model, from my point few I want Xojo to get enough new paying licenses so that they can significantly improve and grow he product WITHOUT raising prices any more...

    While it's not the case for those who make a living with it, where we currently are particularly, with full price renewals, is pushing things for those who don't make money with Xojo.

    - Karen

  20. Michel B

    23 May 2015 Pre-Release Testers RubberViews.com
    Edited 4 years ago

    @Neil M You guys should figure out a way to get open source guys using Xojo. That's a massive untapped market right there.

    The open source movement seldom uses anything but open source tools. As a commercial product, Xojo would not fit in the philosophy. Then, the notion of market for free products usually Linux is not exactly the same as what it is for Mac OS X and Windows development tools. For instance : http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-three-open-source-markets/

    The number of users of open source development tools is probably massive indeed, but I would not refer to that as a market.

    @Karen A Whatever the model, from my point few I want Xojo to get enough new paying licenses so that they can significantly improve and grow he product WITHOUT raising prices any more...

    It is our collective interest that Xojo continues to follow technical evolution and make enough money to support the team of engineers and the personnel needed for their great customer support..

    Back in 2002 when I bought the Standard Edition, it was $149.95 and gas was $1.11 a gallon. Today the Desktop Edition is $299.95 and gasoline is $2.75. Seems Xojo is on par with inflation. And yet, I try to compare apples to apples ; at $99.95 the single desktop is rather affordable.

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